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Nexus 10 vs Note 10.1 (Poll and Opinions)

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First thing you'll notice is the screen on the N10 is miles better than the Note 10.1. When the Note gets a SAMOLED I'm getting one. Until then the N10 is the better machine. Plus the faster CPU, and they're both Samsung, why would anybody choose a Note 10.1 instead? Only the stylus. So make that your pivot question. Do you need a stylus or not.
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Thanks, from my knowledge, the Nexus 10 has two pull down menus from the top, is this correct? And what is each one? Also, Does any one know if there is a rom/mod that enables the old layout? Thanks, again.
Left is notifications, right is quick settings. There are roms that enable the old layout, I believe AOPK is one of them. If you want something a little more stock, you could also try http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2078315
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First thing you'll notice is the screen on the N10 is miles better than the Note 10.1.
The Note's display is brighter and with better contrast. Watching video at 720P content looks better on the Note because it's displayed in its native resolution. At 1080P the Note's playing below its native resolution while the N10's still upscaling. And no content exists in the N10's native resolution of 2560 x 1600 so everything needs to be upscaled. Here's an interesting article on the value of super high definition displays on mobile devices. On text and computer generated content like the UI, the N10 runs circles around the Note. Everything else, not so much for the reasons given. And at 15" away the human eye can't resolve anything higher than 229 PPI so anything above that just taxes the processor and chews up battery needlessly.

When it comes to 1080p on a smartphone, he admits that it might not matter for the most casual users. "For some people, it is possible to tell the difference if we were to sit down and study a [1080p] display and a [720p] display, side-by-side," he said in a phone interview with Ars. "If you’re really a fanatic and you study images, or you have some professional applications and you’re really into displays, then it may make a visual difference for you."

For most people, though, it won't matter. Photos are inherently fuzzy, so it won’t matter whether they’re viewed on a 1920×1080 or 1280×720 smartphone display; you’ll still see their imperfections. "Even the tiniest image detail in a photograph is always spread over more than one pixel," Dr. Soneira explained in a follow-up e-mail. "The image detail is never perfectly aligned with the pixel structure of the display." Videos are even worse: not only are they fuzzy like photographs, but the pictures are constantly moving. Even if the images were sharp, the human brain couldn’t zero in on content that’s appearing for only a fraction of a second on such a small display. "For ordinary viewing of videos, 1920×1080 is really not going to make a visual difference," adds Dr. Soneira.

Where a 1080p smartphone display could really make an impact is with computer-generated content—that is, the user interface, buttons, and text. "Only computer-generated images make full use of the pixel resolution of the display," says Dr. Soneira. "For graphics and text, maybe you want that kind of sharpness." Like desktop computers, smartphone displays can also utilize sub-pixel rendering, which helps improve the visual sharpness of computer-generated graphics.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/...ssibly-matter/





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Plus the faster CPU, and they're both Samsung, why would anybody choose a Note 10.1 instead? Only the stylus. So make that your pivot question. Do you need a stylus or not.
Loaded with apps the N10 and Note perform about the same. Any additional power Exynos 5 has is consumed by pushing the enormous amount of pixels the N10 has. And based on comments in the N10 and Note forum’s, the Note’s built better. Samsung makes $200 and $700 devices. To say they are both the same because their “Samsung” doesn’t account for the component and assembly differences. The Note’s dual speakers are 1/3 larger than the N10’s for example.

To say that the difference between the Note and N10 comes down to a pen isn’t really a fair assessment. Other than multi-user I can’t think of a single feature the N10 has that’s unique or that’s not included in the Note. Whereas as vice versa the list is pretty long.
- Multiview (enhanced in JB)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps (enhanced in JB)
- Enhanced audio and video codec support
- IR port
- Browser h/w acceleration
- S-Voice (added in JB)
- Air View (added in JB)
- Group Cast (added in JB)
- Quick Commands
- Voice control of apps and screen unlock

Video Air View – Preview videos without opening them. View future/past scenes in a playing video via the timeline without stopping it.

Photo Air View – Pictures contained in folders will display in thumbnails when you hover over the folder. They advance nine at a time.

E-Mail Air View – Hover the pen over a heading or contents of an e-mail summary (including via the widget) to see an exploded view of the contents without opening it.

S-Planner Air View – Hover the pen over an event or task to see an exploded view without opening it.

Pop Up Note – Tap the screen twice with the S-Pen button depressed and a pop up note will be displayed. Even on the lock screen when the device is locked. On the N8000, if you’re in a call and remove the S-Pen from its holder, a pop up note automatically opens.

Easy Clip – Capture anything on the display (lasso) anywhere and save it to the clipboard or send it an application (including S-Note).

Draw/Write on an e-mail – As it says.

Draw/Write in S-Planner – As it says (Month View only)

Color Picker – In S-Note, set the ink color to a color selected from a picture.

Pen Switch – Select multiple pen types (color, texture, weight) and toggle through them without opening the menu by pressing the button on the S-Pen once.

Sketch Affect – Change any picture to an outline, color sketch, pencil sketch and more from within S-Note.

Share S-Notes – Convert S-Notes to plain text, PDFs, or pictures and share them via Facebook etc. in one step.

Photo Note – Write personal notes on the back of photos

Gallery Organizer – Create folders and drag and drop pictures between them.
While all that stuff’s great, I’ll say this. For people that are only looking for consumption it makes no sense to pay more for the Note and its lower PPI display. In fact, to get the most out of it, there’s a learning curve to the Note. And all those features just add complexity and get in the way for people that don’t intend to use them. But, for productivity users and content creators, there’s nothing that can match the Note no matter how much third party crap users or the devs try to ladle on top of other devices. I'm a productivity user and would only get rid of my Note for a Note with a FHD display (and I'd prefer 1920x1200). In fact, because of the above features, I dumped my Teg3 One X and got a N2 so I could have them on my phone too.

Everyone uses their devices differently so their is no single answer to "what's best?" I recommend the N10 to more people than I recommend the Note primarily because it's a better pure consumption device and cheaper too. I also recommend iStuff to my friends who think technology is nothing but a means to an end and like to have their content spoon fed to them. Different strokes.

P.S. - All the Note's features were cut and pasted from this 35 page thread in the Note forum. Those deciding between the two devices might find some interesting info there including comments from people who have owned both.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&highlight=n10
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I would go for the nexus 10. Better screen, better support, fast updates, and no stupid Samsung UI. Oh and the nexus has one of the newest exynos processors.

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I have them both and actually like the polish of TouchWiz better than the stock "phone-like" Jellybean interface. I have had to tweak the heck out of it to not make it look like that. As far as updates, I agree, every time Google pushes something out Nexus will get it first. That can be good and bad. Some people have been complaining about problems after an update. Problems they did not have before it. But who stays on stock anyway? Some of the bugs on Nexus 10 need to be worked out. It is however a good tablet. I don't get people complaining about the build quality, people put it in cases most of the time to protect the device, so who really handles it bare bones?

The Note 10 is excellent. I used to experience carpel tunnel when designing. Not anymore, and the pen is as smooth as butter. There is a difference drawing on glass more so than paper, a slickness. Got used to that the first week. The work I pump out on Note 10 tablet is nothing short of incredible. No more of the pop and click wear and tear on my wrists and arms I get from working long hours on my desktop & laptop computer. What I don't like is spending my weekends transferring a week's work to a TB external hard drive. I do not put original work in a cloud (someone else's remote server) under a TOA or TOS. If Samsung could update Note 10 accepting large storage devices, it would be the perfect tablet.

Hard to choose, so get them both if you can.
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I have them both and actually like the polish of TouchWiz better than the stock "phone-like" Jellybean interface. I have had to tweak the heck out of it to not make it look like that. As far as updates, I agree, every time Google pushes something out Nexus will get it first. That can be good and bad. Some people have been complaining about problems after an update. Problems they did not have before it. But who stays on stock anyway? Some of the bugs on Nexus 10 need to be worked out. It is however a good tablet. I don't get people complaining about the build quality, people put it in cases most of the time to protect the device, so who really handles it bare bones?

The Note 10 is excellent. I used to experience carpel tunnel when designing. Not anymore, and the pen is as smooth as butter. There is a difference drawing on glass more so than paper, a slickness. Got used to that the first week. The work I pump out on Note 10 tablet is nothing short of incredible. No more of the pop and click wear and tear on my wrists and arms I get from working long hours on my desktop & laptop computer. What I don't like is spending my weekends transferring a week's work to a TB external hard drive. I do not put original work in a cloud (someone else's remote server) under a TOA or TOS. If Samsung could update Note 10 accepting large storage devices, it would be the perfect tablet.

Hard to choose, so get them both if you can.
You can get 64 gb sd card and put it in the note or 128 gb when avaliable (note support XHC sd cards) , it is something that the nexus 10 cant do also or you can connect your external hard drive to this http://www.amazon.com/GrayBean-Samsu...xy+tab+usb+otg it is working fine or buy a cheaper one if your hard drive is self powerd by an external source
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Got them both right here!

Nexus is way better - the screen is awesome!!


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Got them both right here!

Nexus is way better - the screen is awesome!!


Note 10.1 will be returned
I hate such a floating replies that tend to be lies , give reasons , proves or any thing, you are not helping here
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I hate such a floating replies that tend to be lies , give reasons , proves or any thing, you are not helping here
What do you want to hear - everbody knows the details so everything left are the subjective opinions...

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I know this is between the N10 and Note 10.1. Honesty I have these two tablet. But the best tablet out there right now is the Asus TF300. It has the best bang for your buck. You can probably get the tablet and the keyboard for around $300. With the keyboard you get an extra 10 Hours. you can use the tablet with the keyboard for school. With custom ROM and over clocking you can get almost the get same performance

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The biggest discussion point for newer devices like the N10 and now the DNA/Butterfly are their awesome displays. The thing people lose sight of (no pun intended) is that the human eye is only capable of processing and resolving images at a certain level. Any detail beyond that level is literally wasted. The 20/20 human eye has a maximum visual acuity of 1 arcminute. That is, two points must subtend an angle greater than 1 arcminute in order for a 20/20 eye to resolve the two points. What this means for displays is that pixels must have an angular subtense of 1 arcminute or greater in order for your eye to resolve the detail in the content. Detail above 1 arcminute isn't perceived by the human eye any differently whether a display has 267 PPI or 441 PPI. This is the reason Apple landed on the resolution they did hence the name "retina display." For example, the N2 has an arcminute subtense 1.073 arcminutes which is nearly perfect and it has a PPI of 267. The DNA has an acrminute subtense of .66 and PPI of 441 which is a waste because anything below "1" can't be resolved by the human eye.

So super high definition displays are more a marketing gimmick, draw more CPU power, and drain the battery faster with the end result being your eyes won't notice any difference. I don't know what the exact numbers are for the Note and N10 but at 147 PPI the Note's above 1 arcminute and at 299 PPI the N10's below it. So you'll notice a difference on text and CGI (but not images and video) but it's not as pronounced as some people here have said unless they have super-human vision. And with the new fixation on resolution things like brightness, contrast, and color accuracy get swept under the rug because all people are focusing on is a PPI count rather than the actual quality of the display. In those areas the Note’s display outperforms the N10’s. And the 1080P display on the DNA isn’t as good in those areas as the 720P display on the One X it's supposedly better than. Remember that when you're salivating over a 441 PPI 1080P smartphone that’s going to be hyped to death this year.

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I know this is between the N10 and Note 10.1. Honesty I have these two tablet. But the best tablet out there right now is the Asus TF300. It has the best bang for your buck. You can probably get the tablet and the keyboard for around $300. With the keyboard you get an extra 10 Hours. you can use the tablet with the keyboard for school. With custom ROM and over clocking you can get almost the get same performance
Asus tablets are based on a fifteen month old SoC and year old design and have a host of component issues that make them horrible performers. Do a search on "Asus IO issues." Friends don't let friends buy Asus tablets.

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