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I just don't respond even if I know the answer. Before I post anything I make sure that I use the correct word correctly so that the outcome is exactly what I am expecting when said modification has been applied. It matters not what it is called. To me a minor annoyance that I choose to correct. I loose no sleep!

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I just don't respond even if I know the answer. Before I post anything I make sure that I use the correct word correctly so that the outcome is exactly what I am expecting when said modification has been applied. It matters not what it is called. To me a minor annoyance that I choose to correct. I loose no sleep!

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Yet you made a thread about it?

LOL.

I get you didn't loose sleep, but did you lose sleep?
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Before you educate others you must first learn it for yourself, unlocking the bootloader is not illegal, and you don't root your phone, you gain root access.

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Add to the fact that the people trying to be PC are factually incorrect.
Yup. I hated Microsoft's "I am a PC" ads for this reason. My Macbook Pro is a PC. My note 2 with a MHL adapter and keyboard and mouse is a PC.

My commodore 64 is a PC.

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But it is not the same. Jailbreak is to make a device be able to accept sideloading applications. Android doesn't need to do this. So there is no jailbreak for Android.

Unlocking, though now illegal, is not jailbreaking (making a device to accept sideloading apps).

Calling unlocking "jailbreak" is just adding the confusion with less techy people.


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Mmm. Not true. Jailbreaking is more than just being able to sideload apps. It involves gaining root access and readwrite capabilities to the filesystem. Oh look at that. They're the same thing, just different terminology.

Unlocking a bootloader allows un...signed... binaries, well look at that, you need either unsigned binary or arbitrary code execution in order to have root access and readwrite access to the file system.

Might wanna do a little more research next time.

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Yup. I hated Microsoft's "I am a PC" ads for this reason. My Macbook Pro is a PC. My note 2 with a MHL adapter and keyboard and mouse is a PC.

My commodore 64 is a PC.

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So if I show people my new note 2, and call it an iPhone, it is alright then? I mean they are both touch screen hand held PCs. Not that I give a ****, but when I first came to xda, people really cared about it. Maybe this is where the op is coming from.

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So if I show people my new note 2, and call it an iPhone, it is alright then? I mean they are both touch screen hand held PCs. Not that I give a ****, but when I first came to xda, people really cared about it. Maybe this is where the op is coming from.

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It is a far cry to call something you buy, that SAYS NOTE II on it, an iPhone.

This is different and again, we could argue that rooting is a stupid name for it too, considering that you aren't adding root, nor are you rooting the device. You are simply gaining access to root user level privileges that were there in the first place, just locked down.

A better name would be getting admin access to your phone, but that doesn't really have a ring to it, so who the hell cares?
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That was in replying to an earlier post.
The only logical definition in Android to call "jailbreak" is: To unlock device, without permission of current carrier, to be used on another carrier. After all it is illegal. Which you can go to jail for it.

My point is meshing terms like this only causes confusion with both non-techy people and with users of other carriers that don't deal with locked bootloader. Terminology has to be able to be understood across the entire community, not just for users of one carrier.

How many terminology was used within this thread to discribe "jailbreak"? Can you see how that can cause confusion? I am just saying.

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)
Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)
Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom
Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0
Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X
Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread
Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)
Android Version: 4.1.2 Jelly Bean
Build: JZO54K.T889UVBMB4 (Rooted)
Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom
Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0
Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X
Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread
Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
 
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That was in replying to an earlier post.
The only logical definition in Android to call "jailbreak" is: To unlock device, without permission of current carrier, to be used on another carrier. After all it is illegal. Which you can go to jail for it.

My point is meshing terms like this only causes confusion with both non-techy people and with users of other carriers that don't deal with locked bootloader. Terminology has to be able to be understood across the entire community, not just for users of one carrier.

How many terminology was used within this thread to discribe "jailbreak"? Can you see how that can cause confusion? I am just saying.

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)
Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)
Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom
Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0
Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X
Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread
Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
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