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Default ACTIVE SYNC Bugs

Does anybody knows why is this?

1. After a hard reset I want to restore my backup data with active sync but a lot of things don't want to restore because they are running. I deleted all the files from the \Windows\StartUp I unchecked everything from the New&Today&Start menus. After these I made a reset, and tried to restore my backups, but I realised the same thing than before.
Why is that? And how can I make a full backup, and then how can I restore this full backup with my XDA2 with 1_60ROM.

2. Another interesting things with the synchronise. After the restore I wanted to synchronise my contacts&appointments&tasks but for example if the elements of the contacts is the same in the PC and in the XDA2 active sync says double unsynchronised elements than in the PC or the XDA2. And these are the same with appointments and tasks too.
In the options menu of active sync I checked the 'Leave the item unresolved' if there's a conflict.
(If I check another option there is the same thing happens)

3. A lot of times my activesync disconnects but my XDA2 is in the cradle. Why is that? The best thing was when I started to upgrade my phone to 1_60 and the first second of upgrading Dear Activesync disconnected and my XDA was unuseless. Just a SDcard-upgrade helped.

One of you is an ActiveSync-Magician? :lol:
If yes, please write here for us your experience.

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sO????

I'm the only one with this frustration?
Everybody can do everything allright with the active sync?
How lucky you are :cry:
 
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I have all the same problems trying to use acytivesync backup, So i dont use it anymore, i use the inbuilt backup program on the XDA-2 this restores fine (normally just 1 file complains) but dose not seem to make any differance, Then using activesync it says it needs to sync double the contacts, taks, notes, etc etc despite it not needing to do this as they are already there, so i sync a few times and then its all back to normal.

The idea of not using activesync to backup is fine, but do other people have the same problem with duplicated contacts, tasks, etc etc

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File 'in-use' conflicts are par for the course with activesync backup, as there's no real 'restore mode' on the PocketPC. However removing everything from statup and soft-rebooting usually works for me - although there are still a fair few files in use, these are usually system dlls rather than data files, and can be skipped.

As for duplicate contacts and appointments, do you get the 'replace all items on my device' option? This works fine for me.

Are you using ActiveSync 3.7.1?
 
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Yeah, I'm using the latest (3.7.1) active sync.
My problem is I don't want to use the synchronization as 'replace all items on my device', because the source database is on my phone. Every new contact or data get in my XDA. That's why I need rather the 'replace all items on the desktop' but when I sign it, my phone gets the other half of the double items.
You said, that removing everything from statup and soft-rebooting usually works for you - although there are still a fair few files in use, these are usually system dlls rather than data files, and can be skipped.
In my practice it doesn't happen. Active sync says in the restore mode that something are using the contact, task, appointement...ect databases, not just .dll files. And after it I can't restore my databases in any case.

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Yes, your method would be ok, but I had more than 5 times that all datas from my SD-card were gone. So, I'm afraid to store my datas on my card. One of my faithful deleting was happening when I was using the XDAbackup. If something wrong during your SD-backup, the XDAbackup tool makes your card unuseless. SO, be careful! Your battery has to be full, your radio has to be off....etc.
 
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(If somebody has the the situation with SD seems empty, maybe your datas repairable with some of the system tools on the PC or Norton Utilities)
 
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My problem is I don't want to use the synchronization as 'replace all items on my device', because the source database is on my phone
Yeah, I guess that is your problem. Activesync really only supports a full backup of the device to the PC, with a restore replacing all data on the device. I presume when you're trying to restore your applications and settings, yet keep all your contacts on the device, the contacts etc databases are not being closed correctly.

Thinking about it logically, have you tried doing a sync with your device so that new contacts etc are in outlook; setting preferences to replace device data with PC data; doing a restore, replacing all device data; then doing another synch so that the new contacts are moved back from outlook to the device? Once this is done, you can set the synch mode back to replace items on the PC with items on the device.

Failing all that, you're probably going to be best off with a third party backup product that allows more fine grained control of what is restored to where.
 
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I'm not sure that I undarstand correctly what you wrote - maybe 'cause I'm hungarian -, but I did your suggestion, and it failed.
Do you know any other PC-XDA backup utility than ActiveSync?
 
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I'm sure it's just my rather confusing sytax: your command of English is very good - I didn't realise you were a non native speaker.

Perhaps the confusion is arising from my understanding of the situation - correct me if I'm wrong here:
- Your activesync is working normally (with the occasional connection glitch, but we all get these). You have the desktop conflict settings set to "Always replace the item on this computer", because you use the XDA as the main entry point for new items.
- You can do a full backup no problem
- When you come to restore the backup, after a hard reset of the device or total power-down, there are problems replacing items on the device becuase the files are considered in use.
- After the backup, on the first synch, all contacts and appointments are duplicated.

So my suggestion was to:
- Synch as normal, so that everything is correct on your PC
- change the conflic resolution to "Always replace the item on my device"
- Un-cradle, remove startup links, soft-reset, re-cradle.
- Do the restore
- Un-cradle, soft-reset, re-cradle
- Synch again, so that everything is correct on the XDA
- change the conflict resolution back to "Always replace the item on this computer" so that new items are taken from the XDA.


If all else fails, I've heard good things about Sprite backup:
http://www.spritesoftware.com/home.html
 
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I wrote minimum three chapters like a novel and after that the explorer freezed, that's why I don't wanna write it again.
The point is: not exactly the problem you understood, but I don't care now. Tahnx the answer and I'm waiting for the new AS update. :cry:

 
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