Originally Posted by Avignon
Is this scenario possible:
1) I buy a Note 3 outright from my carrier, Telus, here in Toronto.
2) I activate it on Telus, then pay to have the carrier lock released, as per any terms Telus has for unlocking. ( I'm on contract with Telus, so in Canada I continue to use their network).
3) I assume that the region lock is still in place at this point.
Anything is possible, alas! But... all the evidence by people submitted thus far seems to suggest that the moment you "pay to have the carrier lock released", that removes ALL locks, including any region lock. In other words, we are guessing at this point that carrier lock and region lock are the same thing, and that removing one with a paid code removes "the lock" - regardless of prior level.
Originally Posted by dxzh
Good point. For amusement, guess how many out of the 14 US reviews currently listed on the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2465421 even mention the region lock once? How independent can reviewers be if they need the ongoing relationship with large companies in order to receive the early preview of the latest product?
I agree with this sentiment completely. But I just want to point out - if what we're seeing on the thread is correct, I would guess that US phones are not "region locked" because they are already under the much tighter "carrier lock." I know that when I buy a US phone (since I live in the US), the phone is carrier locked, and I suspect that when I use an unlock code on that phone, it does not just change me from carrier lock to region lock but does in fact change me to completely
unlocked. This is just my opinion, based on everything we've seen in the thread so far. I'm buying a Note 3 next week and will unlock it immediately - alas, I will have no way to test every SIM in the world, but I'm pretty sure we're on point here.
Note I am in no way
defending the carriers at all
here! I agree completely that US carriers are evil, and Samsung has just lowered itself to that evil level by imposing this new locking scheme! The only thing I'm saying here is that, it appears to my eyes, and I may be wrong, but it appears to my eyes that there is only one "lock" - a phone is either "locked" (either to a single carrier or group of carriers in a region), or "unlocked". I don't see any evidence from reports here that there are three levels of locked.
AT least not so far. (Contrasting views/evidence solicited and begged here! We need to know!)