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By htc6500uk, Senior Member on 25th September 2013, 02:41 PM
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1st October 2013, 01:31 PM |#731  
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please upload your region lock photos of the box (all regions) to amazon listings

amazon has not shown the region lock stickers in the listings.

would the OP or anyone who has access to the photos please upload them to amazon as users can upload their photos there

amazon black version http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gala...cm_rdp_product

amazon white version http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gala...cm_rdp_product

please upload the photos so that it affects sales and forces samsung to retract from this stupid locking of sim free phones bought for full price.

will wait till the nexus 5 is launched to see if samsung reverses this stupid policy or will buy nexus 5 instead.

Does anyone know if there is any chance of getting a full refund on my S4 (with contract) bought a few months ago if samsung region locks my S4 with kitkat update. sale of goods act can apparently be enforced for 6years in the UK but i have no clue how!
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1st October 2013, 01:40 PM |#732  
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and this the prove that all Samsung Support not knowing what going on.

https://www.facebook.com/samsungmobi...t=feed_comment

they told the differnet thing.

I just followed your link and read what Samsung Mobile Belgium wrote to you. They begin by saying that Samsung introduced the regional SIM lock "feature" ..."in order to provide customers with the optimal mobile experience."

The arrogance and condescension nauseates me.

Really? What's next... a side order of castor beans, since ricin's well known for 'bringing out the flavor' of our tacos? I suppose they think they can sell us anything.
1st October 2013, 01:55 PM |#733  
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Can the MCC list be totally wiped from the CSC?
Sorry if my use of the terms is not precise.
I have a Note 1 on Telus in Canada, but have never unlocked it or rooted it.
I do travel frequently to Europe and we carry 2 unlocked Blackberry Bolds with GoSim SIMs in them (UK #s).

Is this scenario possible:

1) I buy a Note 3 outright from my carrier, Telus, here in Toronto.
2) I activate it on Telus, then pay to have the carrier lock released, as per any terms Telus has for unlocking. ( I'm on contract with Telus, so in Canada I continue to use their network).
3) I assume that the region lock is still in place at this point.
4) I remove the MCC list from the CSC (?). Is this possible by "rooting" the phone, or by any other method? ( considering I don't care about warranty) Does rooting the phone remove any of the S Pen functionality, etc. ?

I've been waiting for the Note 3 for some time, but now am holding off. Since this region lock surfaced, I've been seriously looking at the Z1 Ultra, but so far it doesn't quite cut it for me. If I bought a Note 3, I would want to know that down the road, if I wanted to unlock it for travel globally, that I could.
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1st October 2013, 02:47 PM |#734  
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Keep all the info in this thread, no reason to spread it even further. Please, OP, just edit the first post with some of the info we gathered: Russian unlock code works (for now), unlocking with a local sim works but only in countries that aren't blacklisted by Samsung, etc.

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1st October 2013, 03:22 PM |#735  
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Keep all the info in this thread, no reason to spread it even further. Please, OP, just edit the first post with some of the info we gathered: Russian unlock code works (for now), unlocking with a local sim works but only in countries that aren't blacklisted by Samsung, etc.

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hey guys, ok got my note 3 (sim free) on saturday from phones4u, used it on EE until today, just tried my etisalat u.a.e sim in the phone and it worked straight off.

Also just tried it with an airtel india sim, and no unlock code screen.

My box did have the region lock sticker on it as well.
1st October 2013, 03:29 PM |#736  
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Anand just posted a nice review http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/s...ote-3-review/7

including a limited mention to region locking in the cellular section ("This also happens at the same time Samsung has started region locking devices").
1st October 2013, 03:50 PM |#737  
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Anand just posted a nice review http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/s...ote-3-review/7

including a limited mention to region locking in the cellular section ("This also happens at the same time Samsung has started region locking devices").

Good point. For amusement, guess how many out of the 14 US reviews currently listed on the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2465421 even mention the region lock once? How independent can reviewers be if they need the ongoing relationship with large companies in order to receive the early preview of the latest product?

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hey guys, ok got my note 3 (sim free) on saturday from phones4u, used it on EE until today, just tried my etisalat u.a.e sim in the phone and it worked straight off.

Also just tried it with an airtel india sim, and no unlock code screen.

My box did have the region lock sticker on it as well.

That sound great. Could you post the CSC file name? You should see it if you dial *#1234# into stock telephone dialler.
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for those who unlocked using the russian website, can you please update here after two or three weeks, reason being i remember someone mentioning the unlock for other regions will work only for 2 weeks as mentioned in their post.

if this is a permanent unlock then might think about this as an option as i really like the phone other than this region lock issue. i need the phone to work in the usa, india and rest of EU and middle east as i want my phone to work when i visit relatives abroad too. dont want to carry an expensive brick and use a second phone for holidays.
1st October 2013, 03:54 PM |#739  
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Good point. For amusement, guess how many out of the 14 US reviews currently listed on the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2465421 even mention the region lock once? How independent can reviewers be if they need the ongoing relationship with large companies in order to receive the early preview of the latest product?

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That sound great. Could you post the CSC file name? You should see it if you dial *#1234# into stock telephone dialler.


sure its N9005OXABMI6
1st October 2013, 04:00 PM |#740  
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Originally Posted by dxzh

Good point. For amusement, guess how many out of the 14 US reviews currently listed on the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2465421 even mention the region lock once? How independent can reviewers be if they need the ongoing relationship with large companies in order to receive the early preview of the latest product?

Just for information: At least some of the phones Samsung sends out to the press in germany do not have the region-lock-sticker. (And a vietnam SIM does work without a password or code in our exemplar). So it's probably simply not possible with the press samples, to find out anything about the region lock. This FYI only, this is not an excuse that the journalists don't try to get their fingers on a retail box

Greetings, Joerg (c't Magazine Germany)
1st October 2013, 04:04 PM |#741  
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Is this scenario possible:
1) I buy a Note 3 outright from my carrier, Telus, here in Toronto.
2) I activate it on Telus, then pay to have the carrier lock released, as per any terms Telus has for unlocking. ( I'm on contract with Telus, so in Canada I continue to use their network).
3) I assume that the region lock is still in place at this point.

Anything is possible, alas! But... all the evidence by people submitted thus far seems to suggest that the moment you "pay to have the carrier lock released", that removes ALL locks, including any region lock. In other words, we are guessing at this point that carrier lock and region lock are the same thing, and that removing one with a paid code removes "the lock" - regardless of prior level.

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Good point. For amusement, guess how many out of the 14 US reviews currently listed on the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2465421 even mention the region lock once? How independent can reviewers be if they need the ongoing relationship with large companies in order to receive the early preview of the latest product?

I agree with this sentiment completely. But I just want to point out - if what we're seeing on the thread is correct, I would guess that US phones are not "region locked" because they are already under the much tighter "carrier lock." I know that when I buy a US phone (since I live in the US), the phone is carrier locked, and I suspect that when I use an unlock code on that phone, it does not just change me from carrier lock to region lock but does in fact change me to completely unlocked. This is just my opinion, based on everything we've seen in the thread so far. I'm buying a Note 3 next week and will unlock it immediately - alas, I will have no way to test every SIM in the world, but I'm pretty sure we're on point here.

Note I am in no way defending the carriers at all here! I agree completely that US carriers are evil, and Samsung has just lowered itself to that evil level by imposing this new locking scheme! The only thing I'm saying here is that, it appears to my eyes, and I may be wrong, but it appears to my eyes that there is only one "lock" - a phone is either "locked" (either to a single carrier or group of carriers in a region), or "unlocked". I don't see any evidence from reports here that there are three levels of locked.

AT least not so far. (Contrasting views/evidence solicited and begged here! We need to know!)
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