WM5 -> disappearing mail accounts

[_TB_TB_]

Hello...
I've upgraded my BA to AtrZ's WM5 port and there is a problem with it (as with Ivan's; I did not test Tuma yet...): the mail accounts (regular e-mail ones, user-defined) DISAPPEAR whenever I perform a soft-reset of my BA. Disappear->they are no longer available in the Messaging app. When I try to re-create those accounts I get an error message that account with specified name already exist (thus the problem is in not storing the config data in the registry; the data is stored somewhere - \cemail.vol propably).

Another problem is the disappearing username and password for GPRS accounts - sometimes (after any system crash) the username and password for ALL my GPRS accounts are blank..........

Any idea?

[Tuatara]

Originally Posted by _TB_TB_ Hello... I've upgraded my BA to AtrZ's WM5 port and there is a problem with it (as with Ivan's; I did not test Tuma yet...): the mail accounts (regular e-mail ones, user-defined) DISAPPEAR whenever I perform a soft-reset of my BA. Disappear->they are no longer available in the Messaging app. When I try to re-create those accounts I get an error message that account with specified name already exist (thus the problem is in not storing the config data in the registry; the data is stored somewhere - \cemail.vol propably). Another problem is the disappearing username and password for GPRS accounts - sometimes (after any system crash) the username and password for ALL my GPRS accounts are blank.......... Any idea?

I'm now of the opinion that there are a few problems with the Database implementation on WM5, as this appears to be a common problem - especially on the prior versions of the filesystem on the BA.

I don't believe that there is much which can be done about this, as the corruption is within the database itself, and not within the registry or other easily editable elements. At present we don't have any application (I'm aware of!) which permits us to edit the contents of the databases on WM5.

The only suggestion I can make is to try and rename the cemail.vol file, and then do a soft-reset to force it to be rebuilt. If necessary you could try and replace the system .vol files attached below to see if the account is created in one of those. As always, backup early, backup often.

*** HAS ANYONE HAD THIS PROBLEM USING TuMa v1.3 ON THEIR BLUE ANGEL TO DATE??? ***

This is a VERY important question, as if nobody has experienced this issue on that particular version, then I will REVERT the filesystem design back to that TuMa v1.3 implementation, instead of trying to improve anything on the performance.

History:

TuMa v1.3 was a COMPLETE redesign of the filesystem and driver configuration from the GROUND UP. The design goal I followed was for MAXIMUM RELIABILITY, not for performance. This is also why OLD applications such as Repart_DOC will NOT work with TuMa v1.3.

TuMa v1.4 changed this, and went for MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE instead. This now obviously has had a number of EVIL implications, and seems to result in data corruption and problems.

Can anyone reading this please post their experiences!??!

[raymondu999]

Originally Posted by Tuatara Can anyone reading this please post their experiences!??!

Actually, durng my experience of using TuMa1.3, these kinds of things never happened. I have yet to test 1.4,when suddenly it was retired ops:

[_TB_TB_]

Hello...
The \cemail.vol cannot be replaced/renamed/copied/accessed

The problem was so far 'fixed' by hard-reset, creating the accounts, soft-resetting the device, and proceeding with further device configuration.

The accounts exist after a regular soft reset (using power-down-for-15secs-and-hit-the-reset). i did not try the 'crashreboot' yet (softreset button without pwrdown).

I'll use my BA for a while and try to precisely find where the problem is...
Thank you...

[efjay]

Tuatara, I never experienced the error with email disappearing UNLESS my phone battery ran out and I did not soft reset when the "R None" was displayed during boot. I have also not had any problems with GPRS settings disappearing.

[_TB_TB_]

efjay is right - my battery died out today due to WiFi usage (yes, the accounts are lost, together with the passwords).

How to replace the vol files?

[Tuatara]

Originally Posted by _TB_TB_ efjay is right - my battery died out today due to WiFi usage (yes, the accounts are lost, together with the passwords). How to replace the vol files?

Hmmm ... not sure. I haven't had either of my BA's working 'long enough' to test things (one is on TuMa v1.5-alpha test, and the other is my 27th AKU2 'brick'). And I'm sure not going to replace the .vol files on my Himalaya (main phone) right now. It may actually not be possible to do so, since the applications (running in the background) are locking portions of the files.

The fact that the accounts are lost when the battery dies is a VERY interesting one! This alludes to something not being stored in FLASH, but something remaining in VOLATILE storage!!! This would be a VERY nasty bug - but one which has been present in all prior versions of WM5 for BA (and/or other devices).

I'll try and see what this could be ... maybe there is a file which is being stored incorrectly in a path/location which is NOT being written back to Flash (i.e. in the repl_filters or otherwise).

[_TB_TB_]

The .vol files can be backed up and restored by Spb Backup. Since the accounts are ok (at least for now) I did not try to restore the VOL files

[efjay]

Tuatara, the disappearing email accounts has been around since the first wM5 rom was released and I also have read it has happened to a few people with Universals (probably early rom versions). So I dont think its something that is restricted to the TuMa series of roms. As i said it only seems to happen when the "R None" message appears when booting, normally when the battery has drained.

[foxtrot2]

experienced this problem too. what happened was i turned off Radio and changed battery(low battery) when rebooted R : None showed and my e-mail accounts were wiped out. when i turned on radio again and rebooted mail accounts are gone for good.

Have tried the Press Power for 15 seconds + hit reset still unable to get accounts.

What gives?