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S-OFF still possible anymore with latest phones?

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By xtacydima, Senior Member on 8th February 2014, 02:00 AM
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I had a phone replacement done after my power button stopped working properly, and the latest phone comes with what appears to be the latest firmware and latest everything.

Is it possible to still get S-OFF anymore or did they disbale that all too well?

My phone info:
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.15.0000
RADIO-1.13.50.05.31
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Dec 14 2012,17:10:57:-1

I tried to downgrade via different RUU's to lower firmware's but the HBOOT and Radio versions stay, only the software version downgrades.

I can easily always get back to Unlock Recovery, install Teamwin, and SuperSU for stock ROM afterwards.

I have tried all of the following with no success:
-Moonshine
-Rumrunner
-Revone method
-FacePalm method

I am sure I am doing all the steps right, got latest HTC driver, only via USB2.0, NO AV, no Firewall, and it just won't work. The furthest I got was with Rumrunner and after pouring first time and a few extra steps I got a WTF are you doing message.

So is it possible anymore, anything else I can try, or is it a dead cause?

Thanks for any help!!!
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8th February 2014, 06:34 AM |#2  
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Originally Posted by xtacydima

I had a phone replacement done after my power button stopped working properly, and the latest phone comes with what appears to be the latest firmware and latest everything.

Is it possible to still get S-OFF anymore or did they disbale that all too well?

My phone info:
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.15.0000
RADIO-1.13.50.05.31
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Dec 14 2012,17:10:57:-1

I tried to downgrade via different RUU's to lower firmware's but the HBOOT and Radio versions stay, only the software version downgrades.

I can easily always get back to Unlock Recovery, install Teamwin, and SuperSU for stock ROM afterwards.

I have tried all of the following with no success
Moonshine
Rumrunner
Revone method
FacePalm method

I am sure I am doing all the steps right, got latest HTC driver, only via USB2.0, NO AV, no Firewall, and it just won't work. The furthest I got was with Rumrunner and after pouring first time and a few extra steps I got a WTF are you doing message.

So is it possible anymore, anything else I can try, or is it a dead cause?

Thanks for any help!!!

Which CID and build version your Phone Have?
TELUS_WWE_3.16.661.4?
TMOUS_3.14.531.11?
8th February 2014, 08:13 AM |#3  
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3.14.531.17 710RD - it's tmobile so should be TMOUS
CID according to my mmcblk0p4 file is T-MOB01
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8th February 2014, 09:14 AM |#4  
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3.14.531.17 710RD - it's tmobile so should be TMOUS
CID according to my mmcblk0p4 file is T-MOB01

OK, I have the same version.

You have not tried this one:
http://firewater-soff.com

Let us know unless I try it before you.
8th February 2014, 11:59 PM |#5  
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OK, I have the same version.

You have not tried this one:
http://firewater-soff.com

Let us know unless I try it before you.

just tried
it stopped after chugging.........

Rumrunner and moonshine and this all appear to be related, same menu and startup screen
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9th February 2014, 12:15 AM |#6  
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just tried
it stopped after chugging.........

Rumrunner and moonshine and this all appear to be related, same menu and startup screen

Sounds almost exactly like what happened to me. I could unlock boot loader, install TWRP, then even got superSU going. But couldn't do much more until I got my phone stuck in the HTC logo with red text boot loop.

I guess I will try either moonshine or firewater. Will let you know.
9th February 2014, 10:27 AM |#7  
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OK, you are not going crazy. Moonshine and firewater do not work. Tried them both.
Firewater crashes out of the adb shell.
Moonshine gets stuck on waiting for fastboot Try 3)

I give up.
9th February 2014, 09:09 PM |#8  
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OK, you are not going crazy. Moonshine and firewater do not work. Tried them both.
Firewater crashes out of the adb shell.
Moonshine gets stuck on waiting for fastboot Try 3)

I give up.

I know how you feel, every post that reports success basically directs you towards an older RUU so you can be on a different HBOOT, BUT, that is no longer the case as older RUU's will install OK - however - will only change the base software version, the HBOOT version remains the same now. Whatever they did to lock down the latest build they Nerf'd it good, unless a new exploit comes out I am afraid we are stuck.

What sucks is even after getting root back on stock ROM you don't truly have full control, I tried to delete some apk's and they are read only. Will try to mess with it later, I already invested way more hours than I care for on this thing.
10th February 2014, 02:41 AM |#9  
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Well I have a matching HBOOT I think. 2.15. In addition, there's a post saying it works - but it doesn't.
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Well I have a matching HBOOT I think. 2.15. In addition, there's a post saying it works - but it doesn't.

I thought maybe Windows was somehow just in general the problem, so just tried in Ubuntu off of a live USB drive.

I got up to step 2 and after "Waiting for Device", next line "Device detected....."
got an "ERROR: ADB failure" and then it stops and goes back to default prompt

I think I officially give up
10th February 2014, 09:41 AM |#11  
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I almost want to pay the local expert $75 to s-off just to see if it could be done, but I did say "almost".
Not worth it.

What about the all in one tool that was discussed a while back?

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