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27th February 2014, 05:35 AM   |  #1  
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I'm at a crossroads some of you may have already been to.
I've read this thread - good info,thanks:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...02522623469268

The last few nights have been filled with lots of reading on any search I could find about the subject here - 12+ hours in total.
I'm curious about the pros and cons of S-Off vs. root with a new ROM?
I like the phone as it operates now,but I hate the trash installed on it that likes to run in the background.
I find it eats the battery and hence wears out the phone faster.
The phone is running 4.0.3 / 1.27.0000 / 332.666.53 and sense 3.6.
I have installed:

CWM one touch recovery pro.

Titanium backup pro.

ROM Manager pro.

SuperSU Pro.

CallRecorder 1.5.2,full paid version - I'd love to be able to use internal recording.

I figure S-Off gives me ultimate control,but I lose certain protections.
I don't mind that as long as I can restore them from a backup.
I also run Kaspersky for this thing.
Any ideas or experiences along these lines?
Thanks in advance.
I should also mention I am HTC Dev unlocked.
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27th February 2014, 01:52 PM   |  #2  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Radius Kid

I'm at a crossroads some of you may have already been to.
I've read this thread - good info,thanks:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...02522623469268

The last few nights have been filled with lots of reading on any search I could find about the subject here - 12+ hours in total.
I'm curious about the pros and cons of S-Off vs. root with a new ROM?
I like the phone as it operates now,but I hate the trash installed on it that likes to run in the background.
I find it eats the battery and hence wears out the phone faster.
The phone is running 4.0.3 / 1.27.0000 / 332.666.53 and sense 3.6.
I have installed:

CWM one touch recovery pro.

Titanium backup pro.

ROM Manager pro.

SuperSU Pro.

CallRecorder 1.5.2,full paid version - I'd love to be able to use internal recording.

I figure S-Off gives me ultimate control,but I lose certain protections.
I don't mind that as long as I can restore them from a backup.
I also run Kaspersky for this thing.
Any ideas or experiences along these lines?
Thanks in advance.
I should also mention I am HTC Dev unlocked.

if you are willing to flash only custom rom i see no point to S-OFF
but i suggest you to change your recovery to 4ext(since you are on S-ON smartflash feature is usefull for you)

also antiviruses are doing nothing at all
only drain the battery and maybe slow down the device
so i recommend to remove kaspersky

edit: before flashing the new rom make a nandroid first just in case
Last edited by rzr86; 27th February 2014 at 01:55 PM.
3rd March 2014, 05:58 AM   |  #3  
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Here's why I S-OFFed:

1. I wanted to install a diferent firmware.

2. I can flash a ton of ROMs back to back if I'm not satisfied. A locked boot partition wasn't helping.

3. I thought (think) the Wire Trick is awesome.

Why should/'nt you?

1. If you have 3.32/3 already, its unlikey you will find a firmware update.

2. Mostly HTC releases firmwares and it isn't doing so for XE anymore.

3. For most ROMs, if there are problems for S-ON users, developers provide tools like Venom Kernel Flasher.

4. Like I said flashing ROMs, rooting do not require S-OFF. They are perfectly possible with S-ON and that's why HTC added this layer of security.

5. UPDATE: S-OFF procedure is dangerous. If you screw up sonething during (or after) the wire trick, you'll end up with a lump of a phone. With S-ON its nearly impossible to brick your phone.

Hope that sheds some light.
Happy to help.
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6th March 2014, 06:34 AM   |  #4  
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Well,I finally figured out how to de-crudify this thing.
There's a little trick I learned for Titanium backup.
The standard touch and remove on restart wasn't working.
There's a faster and better way.....don't worry,everything's backed up to the nines.
One touch CWM did a full backup as well.
It was nice getting rid of the garbage I used to manually kill on my own.
Feels like a new phone.
I haven't ruled out S-Off yet,but right now I don't think I need it.
Now if there was a way to get rid of the Admob style crud,that would be great.
Apparently they make money off it.
The A/V programs don't seem to want to touch that stuff.
Trouble is the apps that install it are always looking for a connection to the 'net [for feedback] and are burning up battery/processor power doing it.
That'll shorten battery/phone life REAL fast.
Any ideas on that one?
I've got Call Recorder pro from Skvalex as well.
Apparently it does record internally now.
The voice on the other end sounds somewhat lower than mine.
It doesn't sound like mic' recording though...correct me if I'm wrong here.
BTW,I find Kaspersky doesn't use battery power at all,unless I'm surfing the 'net ... then I would expect it to use somewhat more.
That's been my experience.
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