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LLP sealed the all the holes then put it in a bucket with 15cm of water, no bands, no button, no PCB. Didn't leak so it must be IP67. So it wasn't tested as that does not meet IEC requirements for IP67.
I would say "unbelievable" but actually - now - I totally believe that.
 
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LLPen did say the test was done by them, Omate, and that it involved only 15cm on water over the top of the device. They neglected the additional test requirement where the bottom of the device must have at least 1 meter of water over it as well. He did not say publicly that I saw anything about sealing up all the holes, but I think one would have had too to get the watch to survive even the 15cm test they claim to have performed successfully.

In other words, the whole claim of ip67 is based on an inadequate self-performed test that did not really test for ip67. Par for the course for Omate. The TrueSmart is not even vaguely ip67 water-resistant as many owners have already discovered. The cake is a lie.

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LLP sealed the all the holes then put it in a bucket with 15cm of water, no bands, no button, no PCB. Didn't leak so it must be IP67. So it wasn't tested as that does not meet IEC requirements for IP67.
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No but seriously, you have to send your device to some lab to get that rating right? And the AW420 should also have IP67 as I recall... And I think that I read sometime during the KS project that there was Nano coating on the electronics.....

I was planning on testing the waterproofness with one of my units, but I've seen too many people that messed up their TS, so than it's not worth it...

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LLPen did say the test was done by them, Omate, and that it involved only 15cm on water over the top of the device. They neglected the additional test requirement where the bottom of the device must have at least 1 meter of water over it as well. He did not say publicly that I saw anything about sealing up all the holes, but I think one would have had too to get the watch to survive even the 15cm test they claim to have performed successfully.

In other words, the whole claim of ip67 is based on an inadequate self-performed test that did not really test for ip67. Par for the course for Omate. The TrueSmart is not even vaguely ip67 water-resistant as many owners have already discovered. The cake is a lie.

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Do you think you can find that statement? Not that I don't believe you, it does sound plausible since the TS has never been proven to be IP67... Now that I think about it, if I would've manufactured an IP67 smartwatch a video of it being in water would be on the internet already (no, the guy in the swimming pool is wearing a dummy, don't fall for it!)
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Oh yeah. He also did not not test any of the lower certifications either which if I understand the IEC documentation (yes I do have a copy of the official docs) correctly, is a requirement.
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Why am I laughing about something that isn't funny! Or is it? XD

I thought you were playing with me, but you were not! XD

Now I don't know what to say anymore... Now it's 100% clear to me that it's not water resistant...
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Sparky, I would be happy if mine could just survive being splashed repetitively while estuary kayaking. I'm not a swimmer, I mean not unless I fall out of my kayak.
Maybe if I can inject silicone around the buttons and somehow seal off the speaker grill (tape ?) it might survive such use ?

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Yeah, I wasn't planning on swimming with it, even if it really had IP67 that wouldn't be a good idea, because of the added pressure of your arm movement it won't be IP67 compliant anymore...

But I expected it to survive rain, splashing of water at the pool/beach, or washing of hands and accidently pouring water over it, or if some other liquid pours over it like a glass of water...

But maybe it still can? I think the biggest issue is the pressure of the water, not really the leaking in right?
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But maybe it still can? I think the biggest issue is the pressure of the water, not really the leaking in right?
Define pressure. Define leaking.

Next time you burn your hand in the kitchen and place it under the faucet to cool it off, I wonder if you're going to be doing differential equations in your head to determine if the covalent bond in the gap between the button and body of the watch holding it back versus the velocity of the cold water pressing through the gap. And of course, you're doing this while it feels like your hand is on fire.

Bottom line - if you're doing something where the integrity of the device is of more concern than the task you're undertaking, the device is wrong for the job. I'm not interested in an attention-grabbing tech accessory. I want a device I can forget about while I'm fighting for my last breath on the last stroke of my last lap on swim day.
 
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Same issue on the Simvalley AW-420! Is it exactly the same version of the watch?

What about using silicone to get the IP67? I think the biggest problem will be the buttons on the right side
 
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In looking at the case and other aspects, if done right you could probably get about 3ATM out of it. Would take an "overhaul" but it could be done.

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