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Default Looking for a replacement for WhatsApp. Something with far less intrusive permissions

but also something well known, used, and won't turn out to spy on me....




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but also something well known, used, and won't turn out to spy on me....




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KiK, WeChat, HAngouts, LINE, Viber...
Thank you very much!
There are however some problems with those options...


Viber/Line/WeChat- What is less intrusive about them? (if anything I see even more permission demands).
Hangouts- Same problem, plus it's Google (the less information they have the better).



Kik- Now that was a somewhat promising candidate but after researching a bit I found that it secretly saves all your contact data on their servers ( http://dcurt.is/stealing-your-address-book ), a fact that make me suspect they do more surreptitious things as well.
Also, I was told that it cooperates closely with the police/inteligence agencies/other goverment institutions... so that makes me suspect them even more.
 
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There are however some problems with those options...


Viber/Line/WeChat- What is less intrusive about them? (if anything I see even more permission demands).
Hangouts- Same problem, plus it's Google (the less information they have the better).



Kik- Now that was a somewhat promising candidate but after researching a bit I found that it secretly saves all your contact data on their servers ( http://dcurt.is/stealing-your-address-book ), a fact that make me suspect they do more surreptitious things as well.
Also, I was told that it cooperates closely with the police/inteligence agencies/other goverment institutions... so that makes me suspect them even more.
It was only suggestions coz I don't use this king of apps.
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It was only suggestions coz I don't use this king of apps.
Oh sure, didn't mean to make it sound like I'm complaining or anything, I'm grateful for any suggestions (which I want more of ).



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Yeah... It's a root application. Unfortunately rooting is not an option, the device must stay intact as recieved. That is why I'm looking for an app that I can trust to begin with...
 
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Yeah... It's a root application. Unfortunately rooting is not an option, the device must stay intact as recieved. That is why I'm looking for an app that I can trust to begin with...
Good luck ^^. I think all mainstream apps require almost the same permissions.

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I'm not sure if telegram is good. The tech press were giving it quite a bit of coverage previously because it is meant to be secure and encrypted.

But I have not yet tried it!
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Thanks,
Telegram is a good suggestion but I'll pass on that too, due to: a) apparently it is actually more problematic than Whatsapp security wise on some aspects (stored messages), though much better on others ( http://security.stackexchange.com/qu...elegram-secure ), and b) I still don't like some of the permissions ...



I was wondering... my searches led me to this app called Surespot ( https://www.surespot.me/ ), putatively it seems like a convenient solution and it is ostensibly open sourced... The thing is, I have no idea how to evaluate its trustworthiness. True, it requires fewer permissions, but better having an intrusive legitimate app than a privacy conscious malware :P.

At least with whatsapp I have some trust in the publisher not to cross several lines (ie. abuse his permissions) while the other program... Opensource- sure, but how many people actually bother to inspect it? And warn others? And can the code be remotley changed? (though I suppose it is a security flaw so it should be warned about)...




Anyway, thanks and would appreciate more suggestions.
 
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Telegram is a good suggestion but I'll pass on that too, due to: a) apparently it is actually more problematic than Whatsapp security wise on some aspects (storaged messages), though much better on others ( http://security.stackexchange.com/qu...elegram-secure ), and b) I still don't like some of the permissions ...



I was wondering... my searches lead me to this app called Surespot ( https://www.surespot.me/ ), putatively it seems like a convenient solution and it is ostensibly open sourced... The thing is, I have no idea how to evaluate its trustworthiness. True, it requires fewer permissions, but better having an intrusive legitimate app than a privacy conscious malware :P.

At least with whatsapp I have some trust in the publisher not to cross several lines (ie. abuse his permissions) while the other program... Opensource- sure, but how many people actually bother to inspect it? And warn others? And can the code be remotley changed? (though I suppose it is a security flaw so it should be warned about)...




Anyway, thanks and would appreciate more suggestions.
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indeed I checked it. I don't know, less than 5000 downloads...
Its an unknown publisher with closed source code... Don't know if I like it.
Plus, apparently there is all sort of criticism about its claimed security precisely because of the closed code.

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