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[Q] Photon Q Battery Mod

22nd October 2013, 01:23 AM   |  #1  
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Would it be possible do modify the Photon Q's battery at all? Like replace it with a RAZR MAXX HD's battery? I can't find dimensions on either battery or anything like that.

I was also wondering if it'd be possible to maybe take apart a battery (perhaps two Photon Q batteries) and somehow put them all in sequence and have it work like that. I'm a noob when it comes to these types of things. Any help is greatly appreciated!
22nd October 2013, 01:04 PM   |  #2  
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You would have to get the measurements of both batteries and compare the sizes to see if the RAZR batt will fit. It looks to be the same voltage and chemistry.

You cant use multiple cells without special circuitry for charging. The best option is to find a larger cell of the same chemistry and voltage then mod the phone to hold it. Also, you would probably have to sacrifice a working battery to get the connector.

I added a larger cell to my Motorola Triumph
androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=763108

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You would have to get the measurements of both batteries and compare the sizes to see if the RAZR batt will fit. It looks to be the same voltage and chemistry.

It's not easy to get that info, but looks like the RAZR battery, altough surely electrically compatible is not the same size.

Razer's one is 1.5 cm longer, and is also narrower.

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You cant use multiple cells without special circuitry for charging.

Well, surely you can't put two "smart" batteries in parallel from the outside, but it's feasible opening the battery and connecting properly the cells, internally.

But this must be done by someone who really knows what should be done, to avoid risky situations.
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You can connect multiple cells in parallel but it's not a good idea without a proper circuit to charge the cells. Over time the cells will need charged at different rates.

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You can connect multiple cells in parallel but it's not a good idea without a proper circuit to charge the cells. Over time the cells will need charged at different rates.

On small batteries like the one you can find on a cellphone "Proper circuit" could be just a couple of resistors to balance the "neighbor" cells.

I'ts way different on bigger batteries, like notebooks' or electric cars' ones.

Given the increased energy stored (and the increased risk) in the latter cases the charging circuitry checks every single cell, not the whole battery as happens on cellphones.

So doubling the capacity of such batteries is a completely different matter, a complete redesign of the charging circuitry (and battery firmware) is needed.
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31st October 2013, 07:52 PM   |  #6  
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Alright, so I'm pretty sure I've this all figured out except for one thing. What the crap is this green..... thing on the back of the battery? It's like superglued onto it and I'm thinking it's an antenna of some kind, perhaps for NFC.


BUT, I can basically just connect the RAZR Maxx battery like this to mah phone I'm thinking. (see image)
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31st October 2013, 11:09 PM   |  #7  
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Alright, so I'm pretty sure I've this all figured out except for one thing. What the crap is this green..... thing on the back of the battery? It's like superglued onto it and I'm thinking it's an antenna of some kind, perhaps for NFC.


BUT, I can basically just connect the RAZR Maxx battery like this to mah phone I'm thinking. (see image)

EB40 (Razr Maxx) and EB41 (Photon Q/Droid 4) batteries have completely different dimensions.
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31st October 2013, 11:11 PM   |  #8  
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EB40 and EB41 have completely different dimensions.

Yeah, I know this. I'll just wire it like in my image similar to what the other dude in this thread did with his Triumph.
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This is why I wish Samsung would've made an S3 slider.
12th November 2013, 07:32 AM   |  #10  
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Yeah, I know this. I'll just wire it like in my image similar to what the other dude in this thread did with his Triumph.

Wiring a different battery is definitely possible.
I did it on a HD2 clone, using a Mugen battery meant for the Palm PRE.

The hardest part is to find a battery with the correct dimensions, usually find the right one is just matter of luck, given is hard to know the exact dimensions of a battery before buying it.

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