Attend XDA's Second Annual Developer Conference, XDA:DevCon 2014!
5,785,865 Members 50,111 Now Online
XDA Developers Android and Mobile Development Forum

[Q] Unrooted Note 3 - Battery Drain, Most Tips didn't work.

Tip us?
 
uqureshi
Old
#1  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jun 2014
Default [Q] Unrooted Note 3 - Battery Drain, Most Tips didn't work.

Hi Guys,

Firstly, I know there are several threads with different tips and suggestions but most of them didn't work for me.

Recently (since more than a week) , I have noticed strange drain in battery and getting hot pretty quickly. It has kitkat and I didn't get time to use it properly in the beginning. After reading different threads and forums here's what I did:

- Let it drain completely, shut off, took out battery for a couple of hrs and then charged without switching on. x2
- Rebooted after charging
- Uninstalled some apps I thought might be problematic
- Factory Reset (such a pain!)
- When attached to Kies, it prompted for Firmware update N9005XXUENC2 followed by another factory reset and hard reset.
- Cleared cache by going into recovery mode.
- Rebooting after charging

But seems like none of it made much difference, my routine use

- couple of hours on wifi
- no heavy games, only temple run, subway surf etc.
- no streaming
- no lengthy calls, not a lot of messaging
- 1, 2 hrs of music
- Syncing off, gps off, blue tooth off, Wifi mostly off, power saving on, brightness on auto, no 3g/4g data, almost no photos and video capturing, sensors, motions off except smart stay

I don't want to root the phone because of my busy schedule, with some difficulty I was able install WLD on it which resets after Rebooting. Point is, I am not a heavy user and this being a "beast" isn't quite unleashing the beasty-battery-life. I do get more than a day but that is when it's in deep sleep for 20hrs or more. I took some screenshots after reseting, updating firmware. It's past 3 battery cycles now, I will attach the latest one's to not clutter it up. I like this phone, but this battery is just not good enough. So, please helpful answers that don't require rooting.

Thank you for reading and Good day!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-13-32.jpg
Views:	160
Size:	139.6 KB
ID:	2782752   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-13-58.jpg
Views:	130
Size:	123.8 KB
ID:	2782754   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-14-13.jpg
Views:	113
Size:	154.0 KB
ID:	2782755   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-14-30.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	164.5 KB
ID:	2782756   Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-14-39.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	168.8 KB
ID:	2782761  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshots_2014-06-05-22-14-48.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	144.9 KB
ID:	2782762  
 
MPDnnrd
Old
#2  
Junior Member
Thanks Meter 1
Posts: 16
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: The Void between CHA & ATL
Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!
 
uqureshi
Old
#3  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jun 2014
Quote:
Originally Posted by MPDnnrd View Post
Is the battery drain consistant or does it happen at certain times (at home, at work, etc.)? If you are in an area where the signal changes frequently that will drain the battery because the radio is using power to maintain a connection. With wifi scanning for google services even when turned off setting make sure it is off if you dont need it. How do you charge the phone? If possible always use the charger that came with the phone, charging from a usb port from a computer is not as strong and can affect the memory of the battery and do not wait till almost dead to charge. It works best to recharge when between 35% and 45%. Look at your background services and see if anything out of the ordinary is running. And it could be possible the battery is defective and you might want to have it tested. I use my Note3 lightly and get 24 to 25 hours over two to three days (turning off at bedtime). This may not help any but this is what I have learned from others with similar situations. Good luck!
Hey MPDnnrd,

Thank you for your response.

It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?

I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much.
 
4aces
Old
#4  
4aces's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 691
Posts: 584
Join Date: Feb 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by uqureshi View Post
Hey MPDnnrd,

Thank you for your response.

It is sort of consistent, did you see the screen is just at 18% and the Android system at 30%? I think this is where the core problem lies - just don't know what and how to fix it.
- Signal Strength: Pretty good, hasn't been a problem
- I normally keep the wifi-scanning off and Now I turned off the location services to see the impact but then I think what's the point of premium device if you have to switch off everything.
- I prefer to use the factory-charger over usb-charging and I read it on several threads to let it completely die and then recharge, guess that didn't help.
- Background services - I don't think so, I kill all the apps as soon as I stop using them, use Greenify to hibernate other, switched off all auto-updates and notifications. Even on Playstore, I switched off the auto-updates and notifications.
- Defective Battery: Now this one, I haven't tested yet not sure how to - the phone's just 2 months old so shouldn't it be good enough?

I know they are not very helpful, but still thank you very much.
I'm sorry to have to say this but I think you got a pretty normal battery drain by looking on your screens. You played almost one hour subway surf(which drains the battery pretty quick) and I guess the other hours where internet (also known to drain battery) or calls/messages. On a not rooted device with stock kernel that seems like normal battery usage to me!!!
However if you like to check these maybe u get a couple of percentages(not that much though I guess):
-Power saving mode in notification drawer makes your cpu clock go down (not sure u got it on not rooted device sry)
-check turn of pen detection in s pen settings
-put the brightness on auto or put it down manually
-if you can change the theme color in apps do so(make it black)
-check the svoice settings so it doesn't listen to your voice
-if you don't care how your phone looks buy a zerolemon battery(I think it makes your phone too big but that's preference)
-don't use a bright background keep it dark colors and no live wallpaper as well

Maybe that helps a little.
Signature goes here
 
Blondasisko
Old
#5  
Blondasisko's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 25
Posts: 170
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Krakow
I don't see any drain either. Almost 6 hours screen on during 24 hours is excellent, additional 1.5 hour awake time for other services. Excellent battery life.
__________________________________________
Glad when helpful and happy when being helped
Piotr
 
Someguyfromhell
Old
#6  
Someguyfromhell's Avatar
Recognized Contributor
Thanks Meter 1,997
Posts: 3,929
Join Date: Feb 2012

 
DONATE TO ME
Settings - General - Applications - disable unnecessary apps
In Google Settings, opt-out interest-based ads and disable location access.
 
uqureshi
Old
(Last edited by uqureshi; 6th June 2014 at 09:45 PM.)
#7  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jun 2014
Thank you for your reponses guys - thing is it actually had much better battery life. What I don't understand is the fact that Screen % used to be on top and android os and system was below it but now it has been on top.

I have tweaked quite a few things already that 4aces suggested and the S-voice thing seems new, I'll look at it. Today it didn't even last a full day whereas I know people who even after heavy usage get easily more than a day - mine one, I don't use it this much. The Zerolemon thing is beast but then the phone is a freakin block lol so heavy and big, good travel etc. where you can't charge your phone and has a rugged case.

But there's a change that I saw today, Android System is now below the screen so I am not sure what made it do that but may the next time I charge it gets better and so on. I'll keep you guys posted after charging it today, I'll monitor what I do.

Blondasisko - I wouldn't really call it excellent, but it's sort of getting better than it was in the first 2 cycles. But how do I reduce additional awake time for other services? Moreover, you might've noticed I got till 1% to get this much time like really stretched it to get there.

Someguyfromhell - Already done, locations were off starting today.

Can anyone else comment on their daily routine of usage and the battery drainage ratio?
 
alom5
Old
#8  
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 176
Posts: 713
Join Date: Dec 2010
If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours

I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
 
uqureshi
Old
(Last edited by uqureshi; 7th June 2014 at 10:41 AM.)
#9  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jun 2014
Quote:
Originally Posted by alom5 View Post
If I get 12 hours and 4hrs screen time I'm happy. I don't even play any games. Have a lot of accounts syncing lot of Internet and a bit on the calls, gps. I get on average 14 -16 hours

I have brightness on high. If you put it on auto it makes a big difference.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
I guess I should feel lucky, I have ZERO syncing, auto brightness, no live wallpapers or gimmicky stuff on, no gps, hardly 10mins or so on phone calls and prolly 30-60mins on messaging a day.

@all others - and the Android System is back on top - what could be the possible reasons for it?
 
alom5
Old
#10  
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 176
Posts: 713
Join Date: Dec 2010
I think its because of such minimal use that the system goes on top. The system still had to operate so when you have hardly used the phone then the system will go on top. Though with that usage you've stated you should get nearer 2 days really

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Make Text Entry More Efficient with Macro Text Expansion

One of the best things about the modern day smartphone is its ability to save us … more

Fix KitKat WiFi Drops on Your Own

Despite introducing many useful features and overall great performance and enhancements,Android 4.4 KitKat … more

Bring Back Tablet UI on KitKat

Google presented their brand new UI for tablets alongsidethe release of Android 3.0 Honeycomb back in early … more

Give Your Notification Shade a Facelift with these Modding Guides

Modification has always been one of the strong suits of Android, due in … more