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Question Memory problem(WM6): Storage -vs- Program

I know this was a problem in WM5, but is there any way in WM6 to force it to use more memory for Programme's instead of Storage.

I have 20 MB for storage, but only <10 MB for memory.
The problem is that is get a lof of "out of memory" errors when I'm using iGO (SE) and therefore want more 'real' memory to work with (I do not use 20 for storage)

Anyone got a "tweak / software / trick" to do this?
 
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Storage is flash, program is RAM. The two are totally different on WM5 and newer devices compares to WM2003se and older devices.

The Himalaya is not an example of tweaking the allocation as this was not a WM5 device.
 
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Storage is flash, program is RAM. The two are totally different on WM5 and newer devices compares to WM2003se and older devices.
Yes, I know that in wm2003 you could easely change the amount between these two. I noticed that everytime WM5/WM6 is started there was a different mount of flash/ram, so WM is changing this every time ?!?! (so you could manuputalte this?)

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The Himalaya is not an example of tweaking the allocation as this was not a WM5 device.
What do you mean with that (I have a universal / T-mobile MDA pro)?!
 
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The only WM5 device you can change the amount of RAM vs Storage is the Himalaya, this is because it was a WM2003 device and it used RAM for both storage, and RAM to run apps in.

WM5 devices don't use RAM to store things in, just the partitioned area of ROM.

You can not use ROM to run things, you only have the RAM, so if you are running out of space, your only option is to run less.
 
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You can not use ROM to run things
Unless, the universal had NOR based ROM, which could XIP
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Default Storage vs. Program memory

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I know this was a problem in WM5, but is there any way in WM6 to force it to use more memory for Programme's instead of Storage.

I have 20 MB for storage, but only <10 MB for memory.
The problem is that is get a lof of "out of memory" errors when I'm using iGO (SE) and therefore want more 'real' memory to work with (I do not use 20 for storage)

Anyone got a "tweak / software / trick" to do this?
Man! You would have read my mind! I was discussing the very same subject this morning with a friend of mine, but unfortunately he was unable to explain (he's a nokia freak), so I could save a new thread by sharing my views over here.

My query was if Uni has got 128ROM and 64RAM, Eten M700 has got 128ROM and 64RAM. Now, how does the respective reading be Program Total: 48.07 MB & Storage Total: 43.72 MB (cooked rom below)? Whereas M700 has got 128ROM and 64RAM, reading is Program 47.52 MB & Storage 70.24 MB!

If I drop a ringtone or copy an image or even an application, would it utilises storage or program? If I install a cab file, would it go to program or storage? I am facing a terrible issue when I use couple of applications even after closing them, I lose about 10 MB! I know some cooked ROMs had a program memory of 52 MB!

Any one could explain?

BTW, what's XIP?
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If I drop a ringtone or copy an image or even an application, would it utilises storage or program?
Storage. WM5+ uses 'storage' to store apps

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If I install a cab file, would it go to program or storage?
Again, storage(this includes other storage media like extended rom and storage card)

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BTW, what's XIP?
XIP=eXecute In Place. This is a common property of NOR based flash media. NAND based flash media cannot XIP. XIP lets the apps to execute in the ROM itself.

XIP is mostly used by Palm in their Treos to store the OS
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Storage. WM5+ uses 'storage' to store apps



Again, storage(this includes other storage media like extended ROM and storage card)



XIP=execute In Place. This is a common property of NOR based flash media. NAND based flash media cannot XIP. XIP lets the apps to execute in the ROM itself.

XIP is mostly used by Palm in their Treos to store the OS
Big thank you for the explain. Now, what about the difference in total memory reading among different PDAs?
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