Toshiba Portege G900 or Kaiser

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http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...e+G900&search=
http://www.gsmarena.com/toshiba_g900-1905.php

are there any other Windows Mobile with 128 MB ram available?

After seing the Toshiba I am starting to doubt if I want the Kaizer....

No doubt the G900 screen resolution outclasses the Kaiser by a signicicant margin. However user's comments all over the net regarding useability of this screen in medium to bright sunlight conditions sort of puts me off. What is the benefit of a good resolution when probably half the time you cannot use it.

Regards

not the Toshiba please as there is the 'frozen' issue, hang when you off the phone and unable to reach you when someone calls you... Plus one for the Kaiser...

g900

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it's easy to crictice and compare whith a device that is not out for sales. it's true that g900 havel some problems but nobody remember what about tytn when come out? i guess that in one month g900 problem's will bè solved and kaiser will come out in september with other problems that will maker people unhappy.cheers

Is the G900 a step forwards though?

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To me this phone looks like only a slight step forward from the universal and only in form factor mostly.

It has no GPS and still a 2mpix camera. Both minus points. Ok.. it has Windows mobile 6 but who doesn't have that with half a clue.

No one is sure yet that the HTC omni is actually vapour ware or something real and if the OMNI were real its somewhere near where i would expect the G900 to be in terms of features.

The kaiser seems to have the next step forwards in all round features (apart from the screen res that is) but with a screen as small form factor as the Hermes would you want 800x480 or similar? it would be much harder to read generally though web pages would look better i agree.

also consider the g900 is a triband where the kaiser is quad not a problem in most places but here in the U.S if you dont have that 850 you are SoL in a large area still :(

Hi

I'm also thinking of the Kaiser after returning the G900.

The screen is great but there are some things worth remembering:

1) No matter how good it is, it's not much use if you can't see it outside, it's a mobile device after all and that to me means in or outdoors use, but the G900 is indoors only. Believe me in bright daylight it's a struggle and in sunshine you can hardly tell if it is on or off.
2) Windows Mobile 6 doesn't run at the panels native resolution (it would be unusable if it did see point 3) and so is scaled bigger, so when in Windows Mobile you are getting the same amount of information per screen as you would with a 240x320 resolution. The ratio of the G900 means you end up with a bit more vertical space, but not a lot of difference.
3) When using anything that takes advantage of the G900 resolution, i.e. remote desktop or viewing a web page at 100%, while everything is pixel perfect and sharp, text and images are so incredibly small I felt like I was going cross eyed after a few minutes of squinting at the screen. You'd struggle to read anything on the move at that resolution and certainly couldn't outdoors in daylight.
4) The screen measures 45x65mm, I'd recommend cutting out a piece of paper to those dimensions just to visualise how small that screen is. Most pictures you view on your computer of the G900 will see the screen larger than real-life so it's a bit misleading when you screen shots.

Taking the practicalities into account of just how usable the G900 resolution is, and realising the screens outdoor limitations and it's tiny size making anything running to take advantage of that resolution migraine inducing, I can understand completely why the Kaiser is still 240x320, it's a practical resolution for a tiny display.

The money saved on the Kaiser by having a sensible resolution means you get a lot more extra elsewhere.

If the G900 had a 240x320 resolution, would anyone show any interest in this phone for it's other features?

The G900 also has reliability issues that may or may not get satisfactorily fixed.

Regards

Phil

Say what you want. The one thing I said I wish the Kaiser had was a bigger screen. I wouldn't buy the device because I'm not a fan of Toshiba but the form factor is impressive along with the fingerprint identification and the mouse type availability (sort of).

Originally Posted by PhilipL

Hi

I'm also thinking of the Kaiser after returning the G900.

The screen is great but there are some things worth remembering:

1) No matter how good it is, it's not much use if you can't see it outside, it's a mobile device after all and that to me means in or outdoors use, but the G900 is indoors only. Believe me in bright daylight it's a struggle and in sunshine you can hardly tell if it is on or off.
2) Windows Mobile 6 doesn't run at the panels native resolution (it would be unusable if it did see point 3) and so is scaled bigger, so when in Windows Mobile you are getting the same amount of information per screen as you would with a 240x320 resolution. The ratio of the G900 means you end up with a bit more vertical space, but not a lot of difference.
3) When using anything that takes advantage of the G900 resolution, i.e. remote desktop or viewing a web page at 100%, while everything is pixel perfect and sharp, text and images are so incredibly small I felt like I was going cross eyed after a few minutes of squinting at the screen. You'd struggle to read anything on the move at that resolution and certainly couldn't outdoors in daylight.
4) The screen measures 45x65mm, I'd recommend cutting out a piece of paper to those dimensions just to visualise how small that screen is. Most pictures you view on your computer of the G900 will see the screen larger than real-life so it's a bit misleading when you screen shots.

Taking the practicalities into account of just how usable the G900 resolution is, and realising the screens outdoor limitations and it's tiny size making anything running to take advantage of that resolution migraine inducing, I can understand completely why the Kaiser is still 240x320, it's a practical resolution for a tiny display.

The money saved on the Kaiser by having a sensible resolution means you get a lot more extra elsewhere.

If the G900 had a 240x320 resolution, would anyone show any interest in this phone for it's other features?

The G900 also has reliability issues that may or may not get satisfactorily fixed.

Regards

Phil

Okay - I wish I read your post before my last. Great write-up.