Thanks, actualy shortly after my post I finaly got the damn thing to work.
I pretty sure it has more to do with AT&t than anything else. Basically I it took three times of doing the same thing to get the HTC rom to load.
I am glad to be rid of those AT&T jerks, yes no thank you I do not want your crappy media player or your ringtone shopping link.
It is pathetic that the tilt would not come with a full version of Windows live.
What is also interesting is that my 3g would not work before and screen came up that said I needed to contact Att. New rom and presto 3g now works.
Much better user controls and set up than the ATT.