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Old 7th January 2008, 02:16 PM
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Default Top Quality Movie Playback

THIS IS NOT A FIX, JUST A WORKAROUND FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO WATCH GOOD QUALITY MOVIES ON THEIR KAISER
SOME CONVERTING MAY BE REQUIRED


Hi All,

I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plays movies terribly.

I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:


I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)

I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.

And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin. Using the settings below:

in "Select Page" > "Buffering" configure it to match the following:

Normal buffer size: 1148KB
Preload at underrun: 5%
Preload for audio: 64KB


Also, if you are experiencing any "out-of-sync" audio, to remove any Lag, navigate to 'Select Page -> Advanced' and set 'Manual A/V offset +/-' to anywhere between'-100 to -300' (fiddle with it untill it's how you want it).



Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?

Last edited by Audio; 14th January 2008 at 09:24 AM.. Reason: Advised thread is not about a fix, but a suggestion. Thanks se0siris :)
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Old 7th January 2008, 02:47 PM
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My personal complaints on the Kaiser's movie playback are to do with the playing of the ripped DVDs over wi-fi from my desktop. It's annoying that my less powerful iPaq plays these files flawlessly, yet the supposedly more powerful Kaiser makes it unwatchably jumpy.

I'm not too sure about other people but I assumed it was the same? I've not actually tried encoding anything directly for the Kaiser to check performance. I've just accepted that for now unless the drivers are released it's just not a device to be used for playing back high quality video .
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Hi All,

I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plys movies terribly.

I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:

I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)

I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.

And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin.


Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?
My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
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My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
I completely understand, if I could make a solution for everybody, i would

I suppose my suggestion is for people who perhaps want to watch movies while away on holiday, or on a long business trip, etc.

I just want to make people aware that you can watch high quality movies on the TyTN II, even if you do have to mess abit.

As for the time it takes to convert, it's surprisingly quick. We're not talking hours, but minutes.

Anyhow, let's keep our fingers crossed for the guys trying to create new drivers, they will be our true saviour!
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My two cents is that none of us want to convert movies and waste tons of time. if a movie X in format Y played well on the Tytn I, why can it not play at least as good on a Tytn II? Thanks for the advice, though this is not the solution most of users are looking for
Amen to that.

I don't have a huge collection to convert, but enough that it would be a major hassle to have a second encoding of everything. And the reason I like to encode to a higher quality is so that I can play the same vid on any machine I won and get passable quality. If I encode to 320x240 and play it even 1/2 screen on my 12" tablet, it looks horrible. 620 x 480 looks way better and evn look OK at full screen.

Plus, I'd like to just be able to play the little snippits I record on my camera. They are avi from a cheapo Cannon point and shoot which costs less than $200.
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OK then, put it this way:

I couldn't care less if you wanted a file of 640 x 480, or if you find that my suggestion would be a hassle, in fact, I couldn't care less what you do in any aspect of your life, personally I'd rather read a book or watch tv...

The fact is, there is a way to play back movies with Excellent quality, and I have showed you that way. Take the suggestion, do with it what you will, but don't reply complaining that I haven't changed your life forever, i've simply offered a suggestion... that's it.
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Hi All,

I'm posting this to try and help people who are in this large boat of people claiming their TyTN II plys movies terribly.

I know it's all over the forum at the minute, the fact that people can't seem to play movies on their TyTN II, however I experience more than acceptable movie performance, and this is what I do:

I ensure my movies are .avi (if not, I use Kingdia Video Converter which works wonders)

I then Shrink the videos down to QVGA size (using Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn). This ensures that the file size is small, and quality is adjusted for that "just right" viewing size on the phone screen.

And to play them I use TCPMP with the FLV 0.4.2 plugin.


Now i could be getting this all wrong, and my idea of "Good quality Movie Playback" is not actually good quality. However, can I please suggest someone tries my methods above and post's their thoughts? And if you already use the setup above, what do you think?
Once I get a memory card tonight, I would like to try your method. Additionally, I wonder if we could just convert the movie into 320x240 format directly. Sorry I am so new to TyTn II / Tilt as I just bought the ATT Tilt as my first PDA phone. However, I want to convert some DVD movies into memory cards so I can watch it on the road / travel.

Thanks for the suggestions / ideas.
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Once I get a memory card tonight, I would like to try your method. Additionally, I wonder if we could just convert the movie into 320x240 format directly. Sorry I am so new to TyTn II / Tilt as I just bought the ATT Tilt as my first PDA phone. However, I want to convert some DVD movies into memory cards so I can watch it on the road / travel.

Thanks for the suggestions / ideas.
Hi plchan,

to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
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You shouldn't have to convert the movies. That's the whole problem.
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You shouldn't have to convert the movies. That's the whole problem.
YES I KNOW... I'm not stupid and certainly am not a miracle worker... did you even bother to read ANY of the threads in here apart from the first one? Don't add comments if you don't read the thread first.
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