A Word About Radios & Their Dangers...

[GSLEON3]

I frequently see new radios posted. Some are very benefiical & it's nice to have a choice. Sometimes you can use a radio from another device & it will have some added benefit, point in case, the polaris radios we have thanks to AllTheWay & others.

However, Not all radios are equal. Not all newer radios, or even all radios from devices with similar or exactly the same processors are compatible. One sure fire way to completely destroy your device, even beyond the powers of FrankenKaiser is to flash an incompatible Radio. Even flashing a totally incompatible rom can have this affect.

Remember, just because it is newer, does NOT mean it's better.

I have spent the last week disecting the Diamond ROM & Radio. I know there are noobies here that see something new & want it. They take for granted that newer means better & this is just not always the case.

I do NOT want to see anyone extracting & posting or flashing the Diamond Radio. You just may kill an unknowing Noobies device. If you do, there will be no saving you. Not by me, not by Jocky, Not by Pof, Olinex nor anyone else here.

JTAG will be your only possible savior, & even that I am still unsure of.

If you see any posts about new radios, Diamond, Touch, Touch Pro, stay away from them. Many of us visit other sites & someone their may not be as knowledgable as the people at XDA.

Always be careful when flashing radios. Know the source & take the time to learn what the file size of a radio for you device is. Flashing an incompatible radio WILL most likely be the end of your device.

Take it from me, I have spent hours upon hours investigating the Diamond & Touch Pro radios & from the looks of things, if you flash one, you will even wipe out OEMSBL. That means there will be NO recovery.

This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms.

Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.

[King of Rapture™]

Excellent information on Radios!

What to do and what not to do.

Thanks mate for such a fine thread.

KOR!

[scotchua]

I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.

[Rayan]

Originally Posted by skatdawg I agree, it's always a good idea to remind those of us who don't know what we're doing not to get in over our heads, and i'm sure saves you a lot of headaches. Thanks for all your hard work around here.

This should be a sticky!

Not sure if this info is on the WIKI but if not it must be....

Thanks for the info!

[Dangerously]

I in no way am going to discount what GSLEON3 has to say. He has put it perfectly! I just want to make some things clear in the light of our well known ROM chefs: replacing drivers and updating items within an OS (and only the OS) is fine. You will not kill firmware, boot loaders, etc. The Kaiser "Diamond" ROMs that are floating around on our Kaiser ROM development (this forum) are fine to use as these do not contain firmware, Radios, or the Diamond SPL (boot loader). Every device is different, just like a car. You wouldn't want to put diesel in a gas/petrol car would you? And that analogy works with any electronic device and not just our phones.

Another thing I would like to point out: 9 times out of 10, you will not be the first to flash a radio or ROM. I know many people who flashed to the "radio from hell" after being warned in countless threads and even by AllTheWay himself. This means they did not read the forum and threads before flashing. Also stick to guys like Laurentius26, duttythroy, _Alex_, NoThrills, Sleuth255 (just to name a few) as they have experience in what works and does not (at least so far)
So... Read up, be alert, and play safe

[GSLEON3]

Dangerously is correct. The issue with the diamond rom is in flashing the WHOLE rom. Using ported drivers & updated libraries is ok. There are some however that if not done right can present issues.

I have flashed the Diamond Radio to a defective device. Currently it appears my I was correct & the only possible hope is in JTAG. I have talked a length with Jocky & will be trying to see if this can be rectified with JTAG. This however will present an issue to you if you end up flashing the entire rom, like a few already have (you should see my IM logs), or that have flashed the radio because JTAGing requires opening up the unit. There is also no garruntee that JTAG will work either. I'll have to see if I can get a bin file to load into ram & hhold there. Not going to be easy & I don't think there will be a clean & easy FrankenKaiser fix to this type of brick.

[viperbjk]

Jtagging should be quite easy.

The main problem is to find the pinouts. For the rest I've already programmed a special software to read out and flash the nand/nor

If you've already got the pinouts, let me know.

[austinsnyc]

thanks for the info I'm sure some people that are new to Kaisers or even playing around with custom rom's and radios will find this useful

[raiisak]

Originally Posted by GSLEON3 This week I have also seen several bricks from people thinking they could just disect & rebuil the existing Diamond ROM. Don't do it people. There are too many issues & differences to think you can easily interchange these radios & roms. Flash Smart, Flash safe & leave the investigation of these things to the true Hero's of this community.

Stock- RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_1.93.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.0 0.25.05 should be intresting for those who want to have a go @ it.

[schizo]

Sorry for such a noobs question, but how about the already used and popular Radio ROMs from Nikis, Neons, Sednas and whatnots?

Are they also dangerous, even when it doesn't show any effect to our devices yet?

The reason I ask this because I currently used the 1.58.25.17 from Neon, at least that what I heard.

Or your point is only for any newer Radio version which not yet tested? If that's the case, I could not more agree.

Cheers!