Upgrading from Kaiser

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I've been looking at this phone alot latey as am thinking of upgrading from my beloved Kaiser. Is it worth the upgrade in general. Interested to here your views?

I consider it too.
I would not call it upgrade but CHANGE from "practical" to "eye candy".

However it's not that obvious as it seems:

* no buttons compared to Kaiser - I am so much used to quick shortcuts (internet, messaging, OK button, jog dial, camera, voice speed dial remapped to brightness toggle)

* GPS bug scares me - Kaiser has very good gps (even for walking around), Touch HD may be affected by the same terrible bug as touch pro - without good GPS device is useless for me

* lack of HW keyboard - I can probably live without but sure to miss accuracy of physical buttons

* TouchFlo sucks from practical point of view - I prefer Spb Mobile Shell (I am heavy device user, TouchFlo is nice but not very useful), I would install it on my new HD

* fingerprints - with Kaiser - almost non-existent, with touch HD - fingerprint magnet

* battery life - it's impossible Touch HD lasts longer with the same usage pattern (1350 mAh both devices)

What I do like is:
* device is beatiful (because of no buttons - Kaiser is more like vintage thick-brick "Pocket PC" compared to beatiful Touch HD
* 5 MP camera -- Kaiser camera quality SUCKS, Touch HD should be much better
* SCREEN SCREEN (I still own HP Hx4700 4" VGA - it's so cool display, I miss it)
* performance (no more 2D drivers issue)

I am getting one as soon as it is available.

I would recommend you to READ here first:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437730

I´m going for it!

Originally Posted by rdy2go

I consider it too.
I would not call it upgrade but CHANGE from "practical" to "eye candy".

However it's not that obvious as it seems:

* no buttons compared to Kaiser - I am so much used to quick shortcuts (internet, messaging, OK button, jog dial, camera, voice speed dial remapped to brightness toggle)

* GPS bug scares me - Kaiser has very good gps (even for walking around), Touch HD may be affected by the same terrible bug as touch pro - without good GPS device is useless for me

* lack of HW keyboard - I can probably live without but sure to miss accuracy of physical buttons

* TouchFlo sucks from practical point of view - I prefer Spb Mobile Shell (I am heavy device user, TouchFlo is nice but not very useful), I would install it on my new HD

* fingerprints - with Kaiser - almost non-existent, with touch HD - fingerprint magnet

* battery life - it's impossible Touch HD lasts longer with the same usage pattern (1350 mAh both devices)

Obviously can't get a HD???



I have a kaiser and love it to bits. But to be honest

1) No buttons is a god send, it was the only fault with the kaiser the build quality around the buttons was suspect

2) GPS lag? The HDs not even released yet where did this info come from?

3) Keyboard. Thought this could be an issue also, but realised that i don't ever use my kaiser keyboard anyway and the new software versions are just as good.

4) TF3D. SPB mobile shell sucks! I used the programm for months and it basically made my device slow and how was it you put it 'a finger print magnet!) Touch flo 3d is without a doubt the best phone UI bar the iphones.

5) Fingerprints. Again with SPB ms my kaiser looked like a slug had spent the night on my screen, how do you know that the HD is a finger print magnet, and if it is wipe then of this can't be seen as a bad thing, this is the future!

6) Battery. Battery life on the HD is meant to be very good due to tweaks on the chipset + more advanced software.

To summerise the HD is a year more advanced than the Kaiser so you will be getting a smarter phone. The main thing it lacks compared to the Kaiser is a keyboard, as is well documented there are work arounds for that.

I will be getting the HD.

Originally Posted by donbronzi

Obviously can't get a HD???

I will be getting the HD.

You have already decided then.
I was very fascinated with a new device but GPS lag issue (suspected as it is the same chipset as faulty Touch PRo) needs to be resolved or denied before I buy it.
90% I'm buing it when sure GPS won't be an issue.

TouchFlo vs. SpbMobileShell is not so important, because lovers of TF3D will use it, haters (like me) will use alternatives - no one gets hurt

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro

Originally Posted by rdy2go

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro

Probably will be the same, as they use the same Qualcomm chip with integrated GPS.

Originally Posted by rdy2go

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro

Yes sure i will be gettig 1 ASAP!!

I agree that if there is a gps lag problem that would be an issue. However the is no indication that that will be the case other than the chipset, and whether these are purely hardware, or part software, the latter of which can be rectified.

Time will tell but i shouldn't think HTC would let another device out without looking into the GPS issue first?

I wait for the enthusiasts like you to check it

IF you tell me "no GPS lag at all", I'll buy it the very next day.