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my battery seems to be dieing a slow death

charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less

took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left

any one els had this
 
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my battery seems to be dieing a slow death

charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less

took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left

any one els had this
No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.

See if that resolves your issues.

Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.


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No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.
Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).

I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.

Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.

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I can't say for certain about the TP2 battery but most Li-Ion batteries will have a tiny protection circuit in them to prevent over charging and over discharging. Becasue of the potentially explosive nature of Li-Ion batteries I would be very suprised if the TP2 battery didn't have any protection.
 
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Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
 
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I agree with what you all say, and yes I'm pretty sure that the protection circuits are there. I haven't tried it on my Rhodium, but did on my Raphael after lending to a colleague who was incapable of maintaining. Charge would hold for around three to four hours of useage, pretty damn useless after a week of abuse.

I totally disharged as much as I could, then left overnight with the device powered off and since then the battery useage has been as norm.

I know were not supposed to be affected by memory issues, but go figure...........


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Have you tried this yourself? Because, I wouldn't probably be comfortable draining the battery quite as empty as suggested by this method. The Li-Ion batteries need some charge to be left in them even when they are "completely" discharged, or else they are damaged (it may actually stop accepting charge, so recharging becomes impossible).

I think it should be enough to just leave the device on for as long time as possible - until the device finally shuts itself down. Then do a full recharge and you should be ready to go.

Of course if you've done this yourself and can confirm the battery still accepts charge after such procedure, then no serious damage has presumably been done. Wouldn't go quite this far myself, though.

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ive done this countless numbers of times, it doesnt damage the battery. well, at least none of the ones i have owned
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my battery seems to be dieing a slow death

charged it for the first time on tuesday evening and with lots of use it(and i mean lots) lasted until thursday morning, last 2 charges have last a lot less

took it off charge at 5.00am this morning it has had about 8 hrs standy and an hours use and it down to 2 bars left

any one els had this
Yes.

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Yes that's true. And TP2 most certainly has this chip. However, I'm not 100 % sure if that chip can protect the battery against this kind of "abuse". It probably can, but I wouldn't like to be the first in line to check if it can or not...
I have done it many times . Never had a problem...........SO FAR .
 
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OK, it seems that's safe then. Good to know in case my TP2 starts to show similar behaviour.
 
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No issues with battery here.
My advice would be to completely drain the battery.
Keep powering the device on until there is absolutely no juice left.
Then remove the battery, re-insert and leave to fully charge without powering the device on.

See if that resolves your issues.

Battery life on mine is excellent after a weeks useage, no complaints here.


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Beasty
did as you said drained it right down even powering on again to make sure
gave it a full charge while powered off
from 5 this morning it has been in stand by and has about an hours use and im down to 2 bars on the main screen
when fully charged i check the power in setting and the last green bar was not lit

nothing running in the background
any other ides to try to sort it before i contact MPD and see about getting a new battery

thanks again for the help


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