Not enough space for progs slots on START menu and 'All Programs' no good - No groups

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The new TFL3D on the Diamond 2 is a huge improvement over the old one I have on the Touch Pro.

However one really nagging thing is that the Start Menu replacement screen, although easy to use doesn't have enough slots in there. Also selecting 'All Programs' isn't effective if one has a hundred or more programs, since it's not categorized.

For example I would rather havea button to show all program dealing with the Phone/SMS features. A group for all games. Group for all GPS stuff etc.. Right now it's one big mess of mismash.

Any workaround to this? Either provide more program icon slots in the start menu, or better have a shortcut to Groups so once can place several programs under a group(folder).

Hope to find an answer as I wouldn't want to neglect the touchflo.

thanks

you could use a program such as resco or total commander to make folders and move all your programs into the appropriate folders.

The icons you see in the start menu are only shortcuts, so moving them around will have no effect on the running of the applications.

The location to look at to organise all this on your phone is
\windows\start menu\programs

I think you misunderstood mobiler..

What he wants is to either have more slots in the HTC start menu (maybe possible) or have programs organised in folders under "all programs"

I'm having a similar problem. I'm looking for someone who can point out a link to the original windows' programs list. Then I can put a shortcut in HTC's start menu.. rather than using the confusing "all programs"

so what you want is to have more slots available when you press start. That's what the guy wants ... I never use more than 9 ...

Originally Posted by MasK

I think you misunderstood mobiler..

What he wants is to either have more slots in the HTC start menu (maybe possible) or have programs organised in folders under "all programs"

I'm having a similar problem. I'm looking for someone who can point out a link to the original windows' programs list. Then I can put a shortcut in HTC's start menu.. rather than using the confusing "all programs"

Yes. That's EXACTLY what I mean. Please tell me if you found any solution.

Originally Posted by georgeono

so what you want is to have more slots available when you press start. That's what the guy wants ... I never use more than 9 ...

Yes.
Or to have shortcuts to program groups.
Like one slot for all GPS programs. one slot for all Phone programs, one slot for all games.. etc..

Or at least it would have been also easier to have the 'All Programs' long list organized into groups.

see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535730 - if I understood corectly (read about 4 times to get the idea ...), this provides 4 columns instead of 3 in the start menu, meaning that you will have 32 slots instead of 24. Be careful, there are bugs.

Originally Posted by georgeono

see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535730 - if I understood corectly (read about 4 times to get the idea ...), this provides 4 columns instead of 3 in the start menu, meaning that you will have 32 slots instead of 24. Be careful, there are bugs.

Thanks, I read it, but too bugy to use.

Organizing TF3D Start Menu

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There is another solution to organize your Start Menu better, but its not very convenient as you have to manually change the registry and .

I added folders to my TF3D Start Menu for different categories. When you click on a folder you see the programs that belong to that category, but only in a list, not in the same view as on the Start Menu. See my screenshots to understand better.

• 1st step:

Create Folders in Windows\Start Menu\Programs. I used Backup, Configuration, Games, Navigation

• 2nd step:

Copy the links of the programs you want to have under Backup, Configuration, ... from Windows\Start Menu\Programs into the folder you want to see programs

• 3rd step:

You need a registry editor to add these folders to your TF3D Start Menu.
The entries are stored under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLaun cher.
You will see there keys named 0 to 23. 0 is for the tab that is on the top left of the start menu, 1 is for the tab in the top middle, 3 is the tab in the second row left side, and so on.
Before you change anything here check on which tabs you want to have the folders in the Start Menu. For me it was 12, 13 and 14.
Open the key that you want to be your folder on. There are 5 entries, (Default), DispName, IconPath, IsReadOnly and Path.
DispName and Path are the two you have to change.
In DispName you enter the name you want to see in the Start Menu, e.g. "Navigation".
In Path you enter the path to the folder, e.g. "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Navigation"

• 4th step:

Close the registry editor and do a SoftReset. Then you will see the folders in the Start Menu.

Additional tips (Not tested by me):
To change the picture of the folder in Start Menu there are 2 possibilities.

• 1

Put a file named icon.lnk into the folder. The file should link to the picture. For the games folder it is shelres.dll,-8229.

• 2

Put the link to the picture into the registry entry IconPath

The first tabs on your Start Menu are protected. If you want to place something else there, change the registry entry of 0, 1, 2 and/or 3 IsReadOnly from the value 1 to 0 and you can delete them in TF3D Start Menu and assign other applications to them.

.............EDIT: OOppps, it seems that fellow member "BeeGee_Tokyo" was a few seconds faster than me!!!! He also provided pics to make it easier. Well done!..........................

I feel exactly the same. Tried the 4 rows option but didn't like it at all.

What I did was this:
1. by using Total Commander or Resco Explorer (for R.E. make sure that in the settings you enabled the viewing of all files), go to Windows\Start Menu\Programs and you will see all your installed program's shortcuts in there (all the ones you see when you press "all programs"), and create folders in there and move the program shortcuts into the appropriate folders. For example my Programs folder has folders named "System Tools", "Connection Utils", "Utilities", Multimedia", "Office", "Games" etc, with the appropriate program shortcuts inside each folder. Do not leave any program shortcuts in the Programs folder
2. By using a registry editor (search for one), create an entry in the start menu for every folder (see instructions below)
Now you have shortcuts for each folder, and if you press one (ie Games) it opens the folder with the appropriate program shortcuts in it (ie all my games shortcuts that I moved in there from the programs folder in windows).

The method for creating the shortcuts in the start menu through registry, is found on another thread in this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508120 , and kudos goes to "prdic" in post 5.

In my example, one registry entry (the "games" one) looks like this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLaun cher\14
DispName Games
IconPath
IsReadOnly 0
Path \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\