LEO's MANILA doesn't support TASKS, how can you remain productive with such device ?

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I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.

I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).

What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.

To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...

Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.

honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...

Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!

Also have they actually cut the tasks app out in which case whats above has been pointless?

Originally Posted by Noam23

I use my WM device for work (currently TOUCH HD), and TASKS is one of the most important things I can think of for a work device.

I currently use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 which does a wonderful job with tasks (with the tasks widget).

What can one do with the HD2 to be able to work with tasks ?, the option that I heard given was to change a softkey in the main MANILA screen to link for a tasks program, but the big minus here that in order to see your tasks you have to press a button and wait for a program to load, while it is much more convenient and efficient to be able to see your tasks (and appointments) just upon device activation.

To top everything, HTC said they didn't give an option to disable MANILA on the HD2, so I'm not even sure it will be possible to use Mobile Shell 3.5 on that device, and even if someone will find a way to disable MANILA, I'm not sure you will be able to control the device well enough with the capacitive screen...

Without a convenient and effective way to use tasks, the HD2 will become just another leisure device, like the iPhone.

I'm pretty sure it will be possible to use MS 3.5 on HD2, although I understand your point. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if (or should I say when ) someone comes with a solution.

honestly what version of mailla has supported tasks? I cannot remember one that has...

I think no version. But for those of us who use the phone for work, and hence need tasks, they gave the wonderful option of defeating MANILA and installing a productive UI that support tasks.

Also the loading time of the tasks app for me is less than 2 seconds on the leo it should be near instant!

It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).

Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.

Originally Posted by Noam23

It doesn't matter how fast it loads, it will never be as productive as pressing the "ON" key and seeing all your tasks immediately in front of you (HTC understood this need regarding appointments, but not tasks, what imbeciles...).

lol but yeh, they dont see them as an important fact to be used, cant be helped really.

Originally Posted by Noam23

Moreover, I can guarantee that you will not be able to operate well WM tasks program on the HD2, I can hardly control it well on the HD with a resistive screen and my fingernail.

Yeh well i have problems on mine and its qvga, i found that adding the start/end times helped alot with finger use, on the front screen at least...

I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.

-Bob-

Originally Posted by rebecker

I've been using Pocket Informant since its inception. I'm assuming I'll be able to use it just fine with the HD2. It's all a matter of adjustment.

-Bob-

Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.

I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).

If I wanted a "closed environment" where people decide for me what I want to see and how I want it to be presented, I would have gone with an iPhone. WM devices suppose to be all about customization and free choice, but HTC completely misses the mark here in their desperate try to produce an "iPhone killer".

Originally Posted by Noam23

Again, you provide a solution that requires you to launch a program in order to see your tasks, this is dramatically less efficient than seeing the tasks right on your main screen.

I think we need to face it, MANILA is not productive, never was, never will be. It looks sweet and that's it, it's all about eye candy and wow factor. If you want to be productive, you won't sacrifice 50% of your main screen for a clock, leave 1 line for appointments, and zero lines for tasks (not to mention the idiotic idea of swiping your fingers miles in order to get to important features of the device, which is inaccurate, leads to errors, and makes it harder to use the device with one hand).

I've never had the tasks on my screen even now with Spb MS (MS Tasks are buggy on my TyTN II). So, I guess we all just have different ways of working and different needs in our phone. I actually never had my calendar on the main screen either because I don't want anyone to see at a glance who I was meeting with next (again, an individual requirement based on my job needs).

I believe the items at the bottom of the screen can be cherry-picked (maybe even reordered) for individual preferences.

While I haven't tried this phone, I see no negatives when compared to my 2-year old phone and several positives, including web browsing and speed. And I AM impressed with the eye-candy.

-Bob-

hey noam23

I don't like manila, not only because of tasks but just in general I think that spb ms does a better job of letting you customize.

I'm sure that someone will make it possible to turn it off and/or make it possible to run spb ms. that will be a crucial thing for me for sure.



I'm sure some

Before my Touch Pro went back to be fixed I had SPB set up as a soft key. I can't remember how I did it now but it was perfect for how I wanted it. It would be nice if you could add the SPB icon onto your main screen on the Leo.