Camera

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Ok, as far as i can tell no one has mentioned this, i appologise if i have missed it as i know some people on here get a bit righteous on here.

SO the camera. , on the HD the camera was the only major thing that really sucked, it did everything else i was expecting of it but that camera really was crap in anything but perfect light conditions.

has anyone heard anything about this HD2 and its camera, its the same MP spec obviously but that means nothing, forget the LED lights they are a gimic at best. Whats needed is a larger CCD and lens, not pixel density, so whats the word on the streets guys? can this thing suck in more light than its older brother and not suffer major lag as the device tried to compensate? and is the shutter responce higher reducing those blured pics that can happen even in perfect day light?

here you have some samples

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=8987

and more here

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-5mp...erage-1259864/

it is average... nothing good, but nothing bad... but i think those are samples from pre release... so it can change...

Yeah the camera sucks

Actually, judging by the videos I've seen, HD2's camera is very fast (almost instant) when focusing, which makes it usable in real-life conditions, unlike HD's.

Originally Posted by dazza9075

forget the LED lights they are a gimic at best.

I beg to differ... While I completely agree that LED flash is no match for a "real" xenon flash, it is useful as it allows to take pictures that wouldn't be possible otherwise - you can take a picture of your friends in a bar and stuff like that (which in my case is like 90% of all the scenes I want to take pictures of )

Originally Posted by dazza9075

is the shutter responce higher reducing those blured pics that can happen even in perfect day light?

My major gripe with HD was very slow focusing - it just didn't allow to shoot anything. HD2 is 10 times better - it almost works like a focus-free camera in terms of speed (at least that's what I saw on some hands-on video).

Fast it may be, but the pictures i have seen so far are of terrible quality, but what can you expect from a cmos lens?

CMOS sensor, you mean?

I certainly don't consider those pictures to be of "terrible" quality. They are noisy and all, but if I can use my phone to make something like that I'd be quite satisfied, for anything better I'd use a "real" camera. The problem with my HD is that I can't use it at all because it's so slow that the scene changes several times before it shoots anything.

Well my nokia 5800 only has 3.2mp and it blows those pictures away. CRAP

Yeah, i know LED lights can have a use, especially up close as you say taking pics in the bar, which ironically is exactly the poor lighting i tried with the HD to no avail!

so i take that back.

Shutter speed would be good, ive lost too many good photos because the wind was pushing me enough to slightly blur everything.

I never even thought to check if the HD cam was CCD or CMOS,

its a bit bizzar if thats the case because although CCD has a higher quality it should be slightly slower than CMOS, which it clearly isnt, which makes me wonder what exactly is slowing the whole thing down.

Well as for the (perfect lighting conditions and zero blur) quality of the HD im more than happy, so i hope HTC can build on it and make it faster.

Originally Posted by jrvenge

Well my nokia 5800 only has 3.2mp and it blows those pictures away. CRAP

thats all rather subjectional really, my old XDA 2 produces better pics at the cost of resolution, so yes in a small printout it could be better but not when blown up. most people do not need anything more than 3.2mp, if my HD was any quicker on 3.2 id use it.

Most printers in peoples homes arent capable of printing the difference between 3.2 and 5 unless its enlarged anyway!

ive yet to see any good shots from a production HD2 but if its like the HD and its "perfect lighting" the quality is quite amazing, perfect lighting is the operative statement there though for the HD so i can only hope the HD2 can push that bar back a bit!