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This has most definately (I would assume) been asked before, but for some reason I can't find any info about. I wanted to know if there is a way(possible) to develop a flashable Android 2.1 ROM to the Tilt 2 (or any other windows mobile device)? I ask because I personally would want to fore-go the HaRET method since this is just Android running on top of Windows Mobile and therefore you won't see the speed benefits or full functionality of Android. If this hasn't been done yet it seems like it should be possible since the HTC phones share a lot of the same hardware i.e. Hero and touch pro2. Can anyone provide info as to why this is or isn't possible?

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This has most definately (I would assume) been asked before, but for some reason I can't find any info about. I wanted to know if there is a way(possible) to develop a flashable Android 2.1 ROM to the Tilt 2 (or any other windows mobile device)? I ask because I personally would want to fore-go the HaRET method since this is just Android running on top of Windows Mobile and therefore you won't see the speed benefits or full functionality of Android. If this hasn't been done yet it seems like it should be possible since the HTC phones share a lot of the same hardware i.e. Hero and touch pro2. Can anyone provide info as to why this is or isn't possible?

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This is currently in development i believe but in practical terms we would need a fully functioning ROM first in order to make a flashable Android ROM practical...Haret is easy because you can boot right back to WinMo...instead of having to reflash your device
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This has most definately (I would assume) been asked before, but for some reason I can't find any info about. I wanted to know if there is a way(possible) to develop a flashable Android 2.1 ROM to the Tilt 2 (or any other windows mobile device)? I ask because I personally would want to fore-go the HaRET method since this is just Android running on top of Windows Mobile and therefore you won't see the speed benefits or full functionality of Android. If this hasn't been done yet it seems like it should be possible since the HTC phones share a lot of the same hardware i.e. Hero and touch pro2. Can anyone provide info as to why this is or isn't possible?

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Android does not run on top of windows. Running android using haret can be viewed as booting up a Live CD on your computer. A complete flash (over writing WM OS in ROM) might be possible in the future. Take a look at the Kaiser and Vogue forums the ability to flash into ROM already exists for those two devices. The problem with porting android into any device is that most of the information such as drivers, hardware chip sets etc. are not publicly available. The devs here, are in some cases literally reverse engineering parts of the phones hardware trying to get things working. Just give em some time and support.
 
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Yup, If you look at the kaiser android threads they do have android running from nand removing WM completely. I think they want to get a functioning build before they start trying to flash to nand. One step at a time.
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Yup, If you look at the kaiser android threads they do have android running from nand removing WM completely. I think they want to get a functioning build before they start trying to flash to nand. One step at a time.
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Android does not run on top of windows. Running android using haret can be viewed as booting up a Live CD on your computer.
With a live CD you actually boot from the cd and never touch windows. With haret, you boot into windows and run it.

Are you saying it unloads windows?
Windows is not still running underneath?

I was looking for info to determine if I would be better off running the most stripped down lean version of windows for better android performance.. but from this post it sounds like it does not matter?? Is this true?
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i think the best way right now is to use the minimum rom for winmo, and use that dualboot program.
 
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With a live CD you actually boot from the cd and never touch windows. With haret, you boot into windows and run it.

Are you saying it unloads windows?
Windows is not still running underneath?

I was looking for info to determine if I would be better off running the most stripped down lean version of windows for better android performance.. but from this post it sounds like it does not matter?? Is this true?
HaRET completely unloads Windows Mobile from memory before loading the Linux kernel, and eventually Android, rather than simply running Android alongside Windows Mobile. If you know what loadlin was, it's essentially the same concept of unloading one OS and loading another, without shutting down the device. Therefore, the ROM you're running doesn't actually affect the speed at which Android, or any other Linux distro, runs.
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i think the best way right now is to use the minimum rom for winmo, and use that dualboot program.
Think this is what you are looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624964

But Android on the Rhodiums right now isn't really ready for day to day use yet.
 
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HaRET completely unloads Windows Mobile from memory before loading the Linux kernel, and eventually Android, rather than simply running Android alongside Windows Mobile. If you know what loadlin was, it's essentially the same concept of unloading one OS and loading another, without shutting down the device. Therefore, the ROM you're running doesn't actually affect the speed at which Android, or any other Linux distro, runs.
Excellent, Thats just what I was wondering... thanks!
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