Attend XDA's Second Annual Developer Conference, XDA:DevCon 2014!
5,804,462 Members 43,959 Now Online
XDA Developers Android and Mobile Development Forum

WP7s support multitasking

Tip us?
 
iamcrazyfire
Old
#1  
Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 60
Join Date: Dec 2006
Default WP7s support multitasking

as my assumption ,OS freeze the application but still allow application to update the hub

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/w...the-real-deal/
We've definitely learned a ton about Windows Phone 7 Series here at MIX, but getting the full picture on multitasking has been difficult, since the OS isn't ready, no one has final hardware, and the emulator seems to behave differently than actual devices and Microsoft's descriptions. So let's set the record straight on multitasking: it's not going to happen, at least not in the traditional way. Not only have we directly confirmed this with Microsoft executives several times, but the developer sessions here are totally clear on the matter -- you don't tell 1000+ devs that they should expect their apps to be killed whenever the user switches away from them if you don't mean it. Now, that's not to say that the OS can't do multitasking: first-party apps like the Zune player and IE can run in the background, and third-party apps are actually left running in a suspended state (Microsoft calls it "dehydrated") as long as the system doesn't need any additional resources. If the user cycles back to an app, it's resumed ("rehydrated") and life continues merrily along, but if the user opens other apps and the system needs additional resources, the app is killed without any indication or remorse.

If that sounds familiar, it's because it's basically a single-tasking riff on Android and Windows Mobile 6, both of which also purport to intelligently manage multiple running applications like this, and both of which usually find themselves greatly improved with manual task managers. We'll have to see if Windows Phone 7 Series can do a better job once it ships -- we have a feeling it will -- and later down the line we'll see if Microsoft decides to extend multitasking to third-party apps. But for now, just know that you're not going to be running Pandora in the background while you do other tasks on a 7 Series device -- it is a question we have specifically asked, and the answer, unfortunately, is no.
 
heov
Old
#2  
Junior Member
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 16
Join Date: Jun 2007
so it doesn't support multitasking... at least not in a tradition sense.

but i guess this isn't too bad.. i mean, as long as i can start writing an email and then go online and then come right back to my cursor... or play a game, hit pause, send a text, and then come right back to pause screen.

hopefully i can connect to a site, switch to text... while i'm writing a text, wait for the webpage to load, and come back.

anyway, i'm pretty sure if MS can't compete w/ the ipod, MS can't compete w/ the iphone.
 
Kloc
Old
#3  
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 614
Join Date: Sep 2008
They have actually did a demo on loading websites in the background while doing other stuff so that will be possible.
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Phone: Dell Venue Pro 16GB
"Ask not what your smartphone can do for you - ask what you can do for your smartphone. Ask not what developers will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of smartphones."
 
rorytmeadows
Old
#4  
rorytmeadows's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 215
Posts: 2,391
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Charleston, SC metro area

 
DONATE TO ME
why is it so hard to update my Yomomedia feeds while sending a text message?

It's plain dumb. RAM is made for a reason.
RTM

XDA's #1 Apple hater

T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S4 Rooted Stock 4.2.2
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Stock 4.4.2
 
TheGoD
Old
(Last edited by TheGoD; 19th March 2010 at 12:38 AM.)
#5  
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 26
Posts: 233
Join Date: Oct 2009
Quote:
Now, that's not to say that the OS can't do multitasking: first-party apps like the Zune player and IE can run in the background...
Thats nice for the Zune-Player and the IE, but what if I want to use a different player or browser?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rorytmeadows View Post
why is it so hard to update my Yomomedia feeds while sending a text message?
It's plain dumb. RAM is made for a reason.
WORD! Its really funny thoug how all those people here defending the decision not to include MT by asking what application really needs it. My opinion, every app that loads longer than 1 second, because that is how fast I activate a minimized application right now!

And on a sidenote, notebooks had limited amounts of ram and processing power combined with terrible running times for decades, and no fool ever came up with the idea of disabling MT to solve those problems...
 
eaglesteve
Old
#6  
eaglesteve's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 5
Posts: 3,750
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sydney
Both the stock iPhone and WPS7 supports multitasking only for their own applications, so you will be able to play music in the background, browse the net with either the stock browser or third party browser. In the case of stock iPhone, a third party application called Nike can also run in the background but that's a rare exception Apple has made.

To be able to run third party applications in the background, the jailbreaking community gives us tweaks such as Backgrounder, Kirikae, Circuituous, Multiflow.

I think something similar might happen to WPS7. Some technical gurus either from the XDA community or other places might do something similar and jailbreak and introduce background processing capability for third party applications.
 
iamcrazyfire
Old
#7  
Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 60
Join Date: Dec 2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by rorytmeadows View Post
why is it so hard to update my Yomomedia feeds while sending a text message?

It's plain dumb. RAM is made for a reason.
Why?

OS still allows application keep running,OS just stops the UI rendering ,stops the playing music
 
bjhill2112
Old
#8  
bjhill2112's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 41
Posts: 251
Join Date: Dec 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by eaglesteve View Post
Both the stock iPhone and WPS7 supports multitasking only for their own applications, so you will be able to play music in the background, browse the net with either the stock browser or third party browser. In the case of stock iPhone, a third party application called Nike can also run in the background but that's a rare exception Apple has made.

To be able to run third party applications in the background, the jailbreaking community gives us tweaks such as Backgrounder, Kirikae, Circuituous, Multiflow.

I think something similar might happen to WPS7. Some technical gurus either from the XDA community or other places might do something similar and jailbreak and introduce background processing capability for third party applications.
It is patently absurd that Microsoft, of all companies, would enforce such a limitation. What about applications that you want to respond to the Accelerometer? Light sensor? Any other system events built into the OS/tool-kit? They have written all sorts of cool stuff like the Reactive Extensions (which isn't just for mobile) - how is this supposed to work if it doesn't support multitasking? How is my app supposed to respond to environmental events if it isn't freaking running?!
 
vangrieg
Old
#9  
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 44
Posts: 2,499
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Moscow
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjhill2112 View Post
How is my app supposed to respond to environmental events if it isn't freaking running?!
Well, to be fair, MS has a way for it in WM, it's called persistent notifications, which works in many (not all) cases. It doesn't seem to be included in WP7 though, I don't see any traces of SNAPI.
 
bjhill2112
Old
#10  
bjhill2112's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 41
Posts: 251
Join Date: Dec 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by vangrieg View Post
Well, to be fair, MS has a way for it in WM, it's called persistent notifications, which works in many (not all) cases. It doesn't seem to be included in WP7 though, I don't see any traces of SNAPI.
I've been poking around in the tool kit and I can't find anything either.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Use Facebook Pictures as a LWP with Facebook View

One of the best things that Android has always offeredits users is the ability to tailor … more

Share Your Thoughts Anonymously with A Minimalist Social Network

Nowadays, almost everyone has a second life onthe Internet. Among the best … more

Enable Heads Up Notifications For The Sprint Galaxy S3

Heads up notifications, in case you didn’t already know, are an experimental … more

Android One Goes Live in India!

Android One is a Google initiative set to bring an AOSP-like experience tosome emergingmarkets like India, … more