Making nokia headset controls work with SGS - possible?

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I have a nokia remote (AD-54) and was wondering if it could be possible to make it work with SGS with some software mod, or is it physically impossible? It's a nice remote with 3.5 socket, allowing me to plug in my own headphones, and would be great for controlling music playback (cause with just the touch screen it's a pain really). The mic on this remote works fine with SGS as far as I've read, but the controls don't.

http://www.rolmobile.es/tienda/image...54_312X312.jpg

And, if it's not possible, do you know of any wired remote with 3.5 socket and music controls that works with SGS?

Cheers.

Ditto - I would love a remote for my headphones to control the music player as well.

Nokia might work...

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I went ahead and bought one of these.... it does not work out of the box, sound is not output correctly.

What does work is switching the phone into TV out mode. In TV out mode the sound is right. However I can't get the buttons to work at all.

When the phone is not in TV out mode then the headphone socket output is different and non-Nokia compatible. I don't know if that means iPhone accessories work or not.

Its a hardware limitation. I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.

Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function. SGS doesn't. The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.

Originally Posted by SargeRX8

Its a hardware limitation.

Ok.

Originally Posted by SargeRX8

I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.

Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.

Originally Posted by SargeRX8

Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function.

Thanks for that exact explanation.

Originally Posted by SargeRX8

SGS doesn't.

Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.

Originally Posted by SargeRX8

The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.

That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.

On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.

You can use alternative music players like Tunewiki or Cube. They can play the next song by pressing the headset button twice

Device like this one uses the Mic connection for remote

http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHead...t_pinout.shtml

it *looks like the two are inverted for the SGS (and you have a function for "PushButton")

http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHead...t_pinout.shtml

Altough this one states that it is the same

http://pinouts.ru/HeadsetsHeadphones...e_pinout.shtml

and we know that nokia's TV-Out are working.
For the buttons to work, the OS has to understand the same command as on the nokia, is it responding to anything when you push the buttons?

Remember that enabling TV out mode changes the pinout of the phone.

In "normal" mode with a Nokia control adapter in sound is not correct.

In TV out mode with a Nokia control adapter sound is correct.

In neither case do the Nokia buttons do anything - Play/pause, stop, fwd, rwd, vol+, vol-.

I'm sure the phone is only Nokia compatible when TV out is enabled. In this mode we don't know if..

1) The hardware of the phone can receive a signal from the buttons.
2) The firmware of the phone allows this to be passed to the software.
3) Software can use this input for media players.

Outside of Nokia mode, I don't know the answer to the pinouts.

Of the three pinout links you posted... http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHead...t_pinout.shtml seems to be verified. There are three posts saying it's incorrect, but they simply say that the left and right channels are reversed. It's implied from that then that the other aspects are correct.

I think since we're no further forward it wouldn't be a total waste for me to go ahead and get one of the iPhone control adapters off eBay and see what the result is?

Originally Posted by Halkus

Ok.

Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.

Thanks for that exact explanation.

Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.

That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.

On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.

I try to help and you insult me? You are clearly a dunce. Ill stay out of your thread.

I was making a guess based on what is known. The hardware inside the SGS is different to the nokia. That link posted above proved the pinout is different thus proving what I said to be correct, its a hardware limitation. What the Nokia headset sends out as a signal is not going to be received by the SGS.

Kindly get bent and refrain from posting your useless crap. Unless you work for Samsung or Nokia as a hardware engineer or they release the information, or you've spent time following the circuit of the phones, you will too be making a guess.

In non tv mode the sound works fine for me. Are u sure you have a real Nokia ad54. A couple of the fakes I got off eBay don't work correctly. If u have a real one the sound works fine for music/books and when u get a call the sound will also work.

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