All Samsung i9000 Galaxy S phones run Architecture version ARMv7-A with a core of Cortex-A8. It is the same type that the Apple iPhone, touch, and iPad use. Samsung's CPU is called "Samsung-Intrinsity S5PC110". Apple iPad/iPhone4G uses the Apple A4 CPU which uses the same architecture and core as well.

Now the HTC EVO 4G with Snapdragon uses something different.

It uses a Architecture version ARMv7-A with a core of Cortex-A9 MPCore. This is what Nvidia Tegra2 uses as well. Devices using Nvidia Tegra2 are the Zune, KIN One, KIN Two, etc... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Tegra#Tegra_250

You can find out all this information with some research guys. I got most of it from Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture

And if you wanna know a fun little fact, Samsung was the first CPU ever put into an iPhone. Samsung is a lot more reliable than HTC in my opinion, so buying the Epic is not a bad decision at all.

Lets not forget that the RAM count for a lot as well. Both phones have a 1GHz CPU. But both phones have different RAM/ROM.

The HTC EVO has a RAM capacity of 512MiB and ROM Capacity of 1024MiB. The Epic has both 512MiB.

Now lets go into the GPU's on the phones.

The Samsung Epic 4G uses the PowerVR SGX540. That is the same "type" of GPU used in Dreamcast, It is also the same "type" of GPU that the Apple iPad and iPhone 4 use. However, they use the SGX535. Even the Palm Pre and Palm Pixi use PowerVR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

And just for clarification. It is only called "Hummingbird" because it mixes PowerVR SGX540 with Cortex-A8. Samsung pretty much takes the chips and develops their own like any other company.

As for the HTC EVO 4G. It uses Adreno 200. Which was previously "ATI Imageon". So it is an AMD/ATI GPU inside of the EVO. This is usually found in phones only. The Nexus One has it, HTC Desire, Incredible, and Droid Incredible have it. Even the Dell Streak uses one. But they are all different versions. The Droid Incredible and HTC EVO 4G both use QSD8650, while the Nexus One and Dell Streak use QSD8250.

And for another clarification. It is called "Snapdragon" because it mixes Adreno200 with Cortex-A9 MPCore. And like I said before, it is how companies make stuff.

Its like a computer, you buy certain parts that are good. But on those parts, there are other parts that might be good or bad that you have to look into.

Now the question is. Do you want a phone that uses a chip that was once inside the infamous Sega Dreamcast years ago with a QWERTY keyboard and TouchWiz 3.0? Or a phone that uses a phone standards and tries to sell their product by adding a Kickstand and a 8MP camera?

That is how you find out exactly what you are buying.

I know I am buying the Epic due to its QWERTY, Hummingbird, Super AmoLED, Touchwiz 3.0, 4G, as well as many other features that I am too lazy to name off lol.

And Yes I did bring Apple into an Android discussion lol. The only reason why Apple phones are so fast is due to their OS being so dull. Now we just wait for the Hummingbird 2 to come out and hope to god Samsung gets it first so the iPhone can definitely get screwed and have to make a new OS instead of making like 1000 versions of 1 product.

PowerVR SGX544XT + Cortex-A9 MPCore = Superbird! lol...

Originally Posted by puppetmstr

The HTC EVO has a RAM capacity of 512MiB and ROM Capacity of 1024MiB. The Epic has both 512MiB.

Is this true? I've heard that the Epic has 1GB ROM... 512 MiB... but never heard anything official.

Also, for those of you who think you can compare the Epic to the Captivate:

"Speed of the phone - unrivaled. Possibly the fastest, baddest Android-powered device yet. I own a Captivate, and this thing BLOWS the Captivate out of the water.

When I apply the EXT2 lag fix on Captivate, it brings Captivate up to par with the Epic 4G. But, Epic is fast right out of the box. Boot up times are nice and fast. No ten minutes of loading crap."

I saw how fast the Epic booted in some of the videos... holy ****. It was insane. Maybe it's CM6 (RC2), but my EVO can take a few minutes to boot.

Originally Posted by shep211

I was thinking of retesting with lag fix but the captivate will be running faster then the epic so it really wouldn't be a fair test. Since it benchmarks the same as the captivate stock rom I thought that would be a good test. The epic may be a little faster stock then the captivate but it cant be that much more since they benchmark the same. I can see a big difference in launching apps. Look at the browser test. The captivate is loading mobile version secs behind the evo running full version with flash. The camera, market & gallery is secs behind as well.

The apps were the same for loading on both devices...as for the browser test..are you launching the webpage from local? because otherwise we can't tell if its AT&T slow or Sprint is fast..also in 2.2 there were updates done to the browser where Google promised 3x faster browsing experience...


@puppetmstr - Snapdragon in EVO is a Cortex A8..not A9..The Snapdragon 8X72 is a 1.5ghz dual core cpu and 45nm(is cortex A9 mpcore)...the Snapdragon in EVO is a QSD8650 based on Cortex A8

Also..Zune, KIN One, KIN Two uses just a Tegra..not a Tegra2

Epic also has 1gb rom..this was confirmed..512mb was a typo

Originally Posted by hydralisk

Is this true? I've heard that the Epic has 1GB ROM... 512 MiB... but never heard anything official.

Also, for those of you who think you can compare the Epic to the Captivate:

"Speed of the phone - unrivaled. Possibly the fastest, baddest Android-powered device yet. I own a Captivate, and this thing BLOWS the Captivate out of the water.

When I apply the EXT2 lag fix on Captivate, it brings Captivate up to par with the Epic 4G. But, Epic is fast right out of the box. Boot up times are nice and fast. No ten minutes of loading crap."

I saw how fast the Epic booted in some of the videos... holy ****. It was insane. Maybe it's CM6 (RC2), but my EVO can take a few minutes to boot.

1 gb rom **confirmed!**
256mb goes to system
512mb goes to data
175mb goes to cache
8mb goes to kernel
8mb goes to recovery
65 mb goes to bootloader and database and modem.bin and filesystem map

I have a evo and I have a upgrade available wouldn't it just be smart to wait for the next group of phones if you already have a evo the epic looks great I can't imagine what the sabor would look like if it was true but still is very tempting

Originally Posted by ttieder

I have a evo and I have a upgrade available wouldn't it just be smart to wait for the next group of phones if you already have a evo the epic looks great I can't imagine what the sabor would look like if it was true but still is very tempting

My EVO is great... but it doesn't have a keyboard. I looooove to play emulators on my EVO but I can't stand touch screen controls for it. The Epic will be the ultimate handheld gaming device. I suspect it can handle PSX games much better than the EVO does... and we still have the n64 emulator coming out (no idea when). For people that don't need a physical keyboard... there aren't many reasons to switch. The EVO has features aplenty.

The Evo's going to win on benchmarks against the Epic all day since the Evo is running Froyo. Because of the JIT compiling, it exponentially boosts both the linpack and quadrant scores. Try reverting back to Android 2.1 on your Evo and running those same benchmarks again and you'll know what I mean. I know most everyone already knows this, but I fear there are some that don't.

The Epic is going to be a better phone. The 4G is going to be more reliable/battery friendly because they've had time to learn from the Evo's mistakes. The QWERTY keyboard is certainly a necessity for a lot of people, and also the absense of a 30FPS cap on the Epic trumps the Evo.

Where the Evo truly gets curbstomped is the GPU, like as the person above me stated is related to the same one in the Sega Dreamcast. Since the Epic is running a "lowfat" version of Touchwiz (2.5), the file system seems to be faster than the other Galaxy S phones OUT OF THE BOX.

I own the Evo, but have preordered the Epic and have no hesitations about it being able to perform. I believe that since the Galaxy S phones hardware and internal components are all very similar, the Galaxy S community should be formidable to the Evos.

Originally Posted by ttieder

I have a evo and I have a upgrade available wouldn't it just be smart to wait for the next group of phones if you already have a evo the epic looks great I can't imagine what the sabor would look like if it was true but still is very tempting

If a person has an EVO and likes everything about it then no one is saying go drop your EVO and get an Epic...this is for those that either have a gripe with their EVO, still did not get an EVO, waiting on EVO to come into stock, wanting to get the best phone available now, wanting to play games on their phone..or needs a physical keyboard.

Overall though the GPU in the Epic is still better then the newest snapdragons that will come out end of this year. and the CPU while still is only 1ghz is possible to overclock to 1.6ghz maybe more...so I can't exactly say the Epic would fall behind for at least a year...

considering..when the EVO was released it was already at least 1-2 years outdated, especially the processor...IF you want to wait for the next best phone you will be waiting forever as specs will laways go up to get you to buy the next best thing...The EVO when it came out isnt anything special considering Nexus One, HTC Legend, or the other 1ghz phones in Europe like TG01, Liquid and etc..The Epic is coming out right now with the best specs of the time..and unlike the EVO no other phone over shallows it..

Originally Posted by ttieder

I have a evo and I have a upgrade available wouldn't it just be smart to wait for the next group of phones if you already have a evo the epic looks great I can't imagine what the sabor would look like if it was true but still is very tempting

Thats what I am going to do. The sgs line really isn't much faster with day to day use. They gpu is 3x fatser in the sgs line but thats all it has over evo. I think the captivate, sgs or vibrant with ext 2 internal lag fix is going to be the fastest sgs phones and they are only a bit faster then the evo. There will be some really nice phones out later this year with android 3.0 and new cpu\gpus. I am still going to test the epic for 30 days but im pretty sure im keeping the evo.

Actually on the topic of benchmarks: (here is the unreleased HTC Glacier leak being beaten by a Galaxy S..though with newest lag fix Captivate does 1674 Frames)