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Xperia X10 Multi-Touch Is Here =)

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7th September 2010, 11:39 PM   |  #1  
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Download latest flashtool here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=10738467

Extract the Dualtouch.rar from here:
http://www.multiupload.com/K97IO1FTAR
Mirror:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17170888/Dualtouch.rar

FTF-File for Flashtool Version 0.2.4 or higher:
http://www-stud.uni-due.de/~sfanmakr..._Dualtouch.ftf
Copy this File into the firmwares folder directly!

and copy the "Dualtouch" Folder inside the Firmwares Folder of Flashtool.
After that just flash and reboot =)
If the Rom is capable of Dual-/Multitouch you will have it now.

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Bin4ry

NOTE:
This will just ADD dualtouch feature to your ROM. It will not wipe userdata or something else, see it as an addon =)

If you having problems in stock Rom with Multitouch follow this guide: (thanks My_Immortal)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921302


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Many of you may remember the huge debate about multi-touch that started just before the X10 was released and was still raging in the xda forums until this week. I certainly do and have followed the debate avidly. The first official line from Sony Ericsson was that multi-touch was considered for future X10 updates, that was quickly squashed with the confirmation that the X10′s hardware does not support multi-touch and so will never have the functionality.

Well, the latest u-turn comes again from the Sony Ericsson Product Blog and comes with an accompanying video of multi-touch pinch zooming in action. “We’ve videos of this before” you might say, but other videos have been doubted and the sources proven to be unreliable, this is straight from the horse’s mouth with proof on the developer’s own handset.

As an X10 user and lover.. erm.. you know what I mean. I’m genuinely excited by this news. It will fill the only real hole in the X10′s arsenal, albeit later than it should have been, just like the android 2.1 update. Should Sony Ericsson’s lead handset of this year have been released with 2.1 and multi-touch the sales for this handset would have been through the roof, instead they’ve dealt with slightly better than expected.

See the demo for yourself.

Xperia X10 Officially To Get Multi-Touch

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Work Ongoing on Pinch Zoom for Xperia X10

Even though the focus of this blog at this point is mostly on the Android 2.1 update of the X10 family I have something else I would like to share with you.
There has also been lots of rumors around this and I just want to clarify what we’re working on and what to expect.
(I will continue posting information on the current SW-update roll-out after this!)

As many of you know, just before the release of the Xperia X10 we saw lots of discussions around any potential support for multi touch.
Myself and Sumit were then very clear on the fact that there were no plans of having X10 supporting multi touch and said so here on this blog mainly to not have you guys hoping for things that just wasn’t planned.

Since then, because of the huge reaction to this and the real desire for multi touch expressed by you the users, there has been lots of investigations going on and I now have some good news to disclose. We aim to enable multi touch (pinch zoom) in an over-the-air update for the X10. The timing for this update is still a bit work in progress but it will for most markets be during Q1 next year.

What has happened is that some brilliant engineers actually was able to change the driver and firmware for the touch digitizer to make some multi touch gestures work. We are still working on perfecting the user experience and I will keep you updated as work progresses.

I also want to be clear on what to expect from this feature. The digitizer in the X10 is not perfect when it comes to multi touch, there will as an example be situations like when the movement of the two fingers cross each other on the X- or Y-axis that could cause strange behavior. (There has been much online debating around what is “good” and “bad” Multi Touch in competitor phones and this is following the same lines.)

Therefore we also will not enable it everywhere but the current plan is to enable it for the following use-cases:
- Pinch/Zoom in the web browser.
- Pinch/Zoom in Google Maps.

Besides that there is also support in third party applications but because of the limitations on e.g. crossing axis there might be situations where it behaves strangely while it will work just fine for most use-cases.
The support is basically for gestures like pinch/zoom so don’t expect e.g. multi touch gaming with buttons pressed simultaneously on different parts of the screen to work.
Let me know if you have specific multi touch enabled apps you want me to test!

Below is a video where I show some of the use-cases and what to expect on a prototype SW in my X10.



Work Ongoing on Pinch Zoom for Xperia X10

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Quote:

* Will it have multi-touch in future updates?
Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.

- blogs.sonyericsson.com
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Seeing as threads even hinting at multi-touch on the Xperia X10 are getting closed I thought I'd start this thread to list some of them to keep the discussion in one thread, which hopefully will remain open so that those who wish to discuss it can. The first one gives hope, but time will tell.

Samsung i5700 hacked for multitouch, what does that mean for the X10?

Multitouch HATER!

Possiblity of MultiTouch in X10-Unofficially !

Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1

X10 has multi-touch - proved

X10 can do multitouch after all, applause!!!!

X10 DOES have Multitouch

Is x10 is supporting multi-touch

multi touch( come and discuss)

dual touch - test - do it yourself
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Im not sure if it helps, but here are some images of the X10 Digitizer and screen Cracked open my broken X10 :P




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I have found some information about the Microcontroller CY8C in pic number 3...

The manufacturer is Cypress Semiconductor

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Things get interesting from page 29 onwards.
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8th September 2010, 01:03 AM   |  #2  
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What a great idea, specially if you commit yourself to update the first post and title with every news (if we hear any). Good way of organizing. I think it should be pinned and any new thread should be deleted and poster should be banned or warrning may do it.

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i'm surprised after word of the samsung getting multi-touch even though they said it shouldn't that no one brought up how devs were able to get RESISTIVE screens to do multi touch via software mods i mean.. nothing is impossible
8th September 2010, 06:09 AM   |  #4  
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developers must hack X10 for multitouch lol
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developers must hack X10 for multitouch lol

Devs must hack everything!?
Root, cracked bootloader,...

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Since this thread is started, I would like to bring up some phenomenon which might or might not shed some light on the presence of multitouch in the x10 hardware.

A few days ago I was drawing on a tool called Drawer, and I did a small experiment. While drawing a line, I placed another finger on another spot on the canvas. In the duration which my other finger was placed on the canvas, there was a break in the original line I was trying to draw. Here's my theory on what's going on behind the scene:

When I placed my second finger on the touchscreen, the device actually detected it and stopped input altogether. Yes, my second touch WAS detected. This is in contrast to a single-touch capacitive synaptic touchpad, which approximates the input instead.

To relate to the SNESoid/Gameboid "multitouch vibration" phenomenon, the vibration isn't actually directly caused by multitouch. It is caused by the break in the input when the 2nd touch is detected, followed by the reregistration of the input after the 2nd touch is lifted.

If someone has a device with a true single-touch capacitive screen, it might be possible to test is true single-touch devices behave the same way.
8th September 2010, 09:04 AM   |  #7  
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Devs must hack everything!?
Root, cracked bootloader,...

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devs are lazy to do something for x10
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The screen of my old x1i is dualtouch/multitouch......


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Since this thread is started, I would like to bring up some phenomenon which might or might not shed some light on the presence of multitouch in the x10 hardware.

A few days ago I was drawing on a tool called Drawer, and I did a small experiment. While drawing a line, I placed another finger on another spot on the canvas. In the duration which my other finger was placed on the canvas, there was a break in the original line I was trying to draw. Here's my theory on what's going on behind the scene:

When I placed my second finger on the touchscreen, the device actually detected it and stopped input altogether. Yes, my second touch WAS detected. This is in contrast to a single-touch capacitive synaptic touchpad, which approximates the input instead.

To relate to the SNESoid/Gameboid "multitouch vibration" phenomenon, the vibration isn't actually directly caused by multitouch. It is caused by the break in the input when the 2nd touch is detected, followed by the reregistration of the input after the 2nd touch is lifted.

If someone has a device with a true single-touch capacitive screen, it might be possible to test is true single-touch devices behave the same way.

Its going to be impossible to test properly until 2.1 because the OS doesn't support it either at the moment. So any glitches are just glitches. If someone could find out the screen manufacturer then it would be easier to find out. Personally I think SE has made tomany slip ups with MT announcements and mistake on the US site for it to be an incomparable screen. Sure there is a way to have it going if someone who knows a bit about these things took a little time to check it out
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Good way of organizing. I think it should be pinned

I agree and was the reason for starting this thread. The reason given for the last thread closed was that it could have been posted on one of the other MT threads, but yet the one before it was also closed so thought if I grouped a few threads together, named it appropriately, then it can be pinned and any and all discussion can be done in here.

I know there are more threads so will add them as I find them.

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