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Default G2 Processor faster than Nexus One?

I constantly see references to the G2 beating the Nexus One in benchmark tests but the benchmarks always include GPU performance as part of the score. It was established before the phone came out that the GPU performance would beat just about everything else (save the Galaxy S), however that is somehow conflated with CPU performance.

Yes, the G2 can and probably will be overclocked once root is achieved but for now, apples to apples comparison:



Overall score is higher than Nexus One but CPU score is lower

I don't know that this is all that significant and I'd still take my G2 over a Nexus One, but please stop spreading misinformation by saying how the "Scorpion CPU pwnz the Snapdragon LOLZWTF!!!!1!!"
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And I'm sure once the G2 get clocked At its native speed then its gonna put your point to rest...G2 still runs faster than my nexus .. I don't care about numbers what I care about is real world performance

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Both are Snapdragon SoC (G2 and N1), and both have Scorpion CPU's.. newer one is on a 45nm die while older is on a 65nm (lesser heat emission, lower consumption of power as a result longer battery life on the G2 thanks to the 45nm die).

CPU architecture wise there is not much difference.. the application processing however has been tweaked to perform better overall(thanks to the 45nm die I believe) and obviously as you can see the GPU, Adreno 205 thrashes the older Adreno 200..

Also the newer SoC supports more video codecs(mainly DivX actually) as well. ((MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) vs (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6).
 
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And I'm sure once the G2 get clocked At its native speed then its gonna put your point to rest
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I constantly see references to the G2 beating the Nexus One in benchmark tests
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Yes, the G2 can and probably will be overclocked once root is achieved but for now, apples to apples comparison
I don't know if I came across as bashing the phone. Maybe it was when I said I still prefer it over a Nexus one?

Regardless, my point wouldn't be "put to rest." For now, the CPU on the Nexus One outperforms the G2 on a benchmark. That is what I was addressing, nothing more.


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Both are Snapdragon SoC (G2 and N1), and both have Scorpion CPU's.. newer one is on a 45nm die while older is on a 65nm (lesser heat emission, lower consumption of power as a result longer battery life on the G2 thanks to the 45nm die).

CPU architecture wise there is not much difference.. the application processing however has been tweaked to perform better overall(thanks to the 45nm die I believe) and obviously as you can see the GPU, Adreno 205 thrashes the older Adreno 200..

Also the newer SoC supports more video codecs(mainly DivX actually) as well. ((MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) vs (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6).
My personal experience matches what you've said exactly. Barely a hiccup running the phone and excellent battery life (relatively speaking at least). Like I said, the only thing I'm addressing is people using benchmarks which include the GPU in the score to say that the G2 processor is faster at 800mhz than the N1 at 1ghz.
 
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Is there anything like Adobe Flash benchmark or test page? G2 is supposed to hardware accelerate Flash.
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G2 is pure sex compared to my last phone, motorola cliq hahah
 
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Is there anything like Adobe Flash benchmark or test page? G2 is supposed to hardware accelerate Flash.
This is particularly interesting, as the phone seems to load and scroll webpages faster than my Nexus One did with Enom's ROM. Well, the G2 is faster in everything, basically. Not by a lot, but enough to be noticeable.

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What is interesting is the obnoxiously higher IO score in the G2 compared to the N1.

I wonder what is entailed in an IO test on a phone...
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here is some light reading, and chart lookin....

http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news...owervr-sgx540/

But jsut remember that the Galaxy class is still stuck on 2.1 so we are missing some updated drivers and JIT and yes that does make a difference.
Remember people, instructions are there to help you not hinder you and anytime you skip them you are doing the same with your phone as it would be to walk off a cliff with a self packed parachute.... did you do it right by following the instructions or did you just shove it in the bag and jump..... think before you leap!

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Oh I forgot.

Better IO scores I believe is thanks to the fact that HTC decided to to with ext3 partition for its OS, thus having faster read/writes(I'm not sure about this.. I think its thanks to the ext3 partition)

Also yeah, like I said, the CPU architecture is similar, (very similar actually), just the overall application processing is better due to tweaks, and one guy mentioned hardware flash acceleration which I forgot to mention, and obviously the GPU. Basically its a very well refined package of the Snapdragons that were on the N1/Desire.

Next year's 3rd Gen Snapdragons will be dual core Scorpion CPU's, even better tweaking and optimization, and HUGE gpu improvement.
Qualcomm says that Adreno 220 is 4-5 times faster than Adreno 205.

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