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Default The great battery challenge

Hello all,

I have tried a lot of the win mobile and android roms from the xda forums. But i always went back to windows mobile 6.1 as i work and need at least a days worth of battery. Having tried android and then messing with kernel changes i eventually got just over 8 hours with an average days use of texts, calls etc. I then read that in actuall fact, most of the(real) android phones did not fair much better than 8 hours anyway unless you did the recharge/off/recharge trick(desire).

So if it is possible to get the 8 hours, even if i had to muck about with complicated kernel stuff, why cant the android cabs be written with the required changes ?

In fact, why cant the devs start actually looking at their win rom/android creations and tuning them to make actually usable in the real world ?

So this is my challenge, before you release a rom try to tweak it for people who dont sit around a charger all day.

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Steve the main problem comes from the fact that android is using the micro sd all the time. With a working bootable android rom we will face also the fact that most of our hardware is now initialized by windows mobile before we launch haret and with an android rom that won't be the case.
 
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Steve the main problem comes from the fact that android is using the micro sd all the time. With a working bootable android rom we will face also the fact that most of our hardware is now initialized by windows mobile before we launch haret and with an android rom that won't be the case.
The R/W to the microSD card is not that much of an issue for the battery life, yes it may contribute to the battery reduction but only by a small fraction, the only adverse effect of running android from your SD card will be a reduced lifespan of the memory card and possible damaging your SD card permanently depending on the type of filesystem used.

We need dedicated Blackstone developers because tbh it's all becoming a mess, there seems to be no communication or no-one testing XDAndroid releases on the blackstone before made public because if there were they would have noticed by now that they have messed up the qwerty.kl for us users, the home button which also doubles up as a task viewer/switcher has been remapped to power off since 3-4 releases ago.
Yes you can amend this in spare parts but we have still lost the task viewer/switcher functionality due to this and we now have two power buttons.

This is becoming a joke, if you put a valid point in any of these threads they become dead or ignored almost immediately.

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Sometimes it is helpful to remember that this forum and many others with home-made ROMS or Android installations are for developers. User which will have stable releases have to wait for or use the offical ones. All others here are also developers or testers which help other developers. Therefore the releases here are often beta- or test-releases.

Nobody is committed to use them but everybody is invited to collaborate

And the goal is thereby a usable ROM or installation but the problem is that this is very komplex for all when it's made in spare time. And when you look what happends here with the Android installations in the last months, many issues are now solved.
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Elim,

although it is obvious that using the roms/android builds is up to the user, it is also up to the user to feed back to the devs...otherwise there is not much point in making them at all, for other devs or for "beta testers" ie general readers of the xda forum.

My point in the first post is not only have htc(the actual developers) forgotten about handsets being actualy usable(read practical) but devs are now straying into the "just roll off a rom a day". No one is doubting the time and effort put into this, but someone has to man up and say it how it is. There is no point is creating roms/android if they last a few hours but can do everything(or nothing).

So again i lay down the gauntlet to devs, whether from htc or xda(or both) to concentrate on roms for people who work and there fore have no time to charge untill at home/car.

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I dont have any problem with the battery life while running android on my blackstone, i am an IT consultant so i am calling all day long. I take it of its cord in the morning and use the phone all day until i go to sleep. so thats about 16 hours of intensive usage. I read that all people have battery issue's but my phone is running for 6 weeks without running completly dry. and i only recharge at night.
i dont use wifi or internet on it so that is maybee the difference.
 
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I dont have any problem with the battery life while running android on my blackstone, i am an IT consultant so i am calling all day long. I take it of its cord in the morning and use the phone all day until i go to sleep. so thats about 16 hours of intensive usage. I read that all people have battery issue's but my phone is running for 6 weeks without running completly dry. and i only recharge at night.
i dont use wifi or internet on it so that is maybee the difference.
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If you had such a battery life, why wont you give details of the kernels etc for us to test....

So again the challenge is put down, an android version for blackstone that has battery "legs" for people who work or cant get near a charger all day.

Steve.
 
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sorry for late response i had a 2.1 kernel, and it still works great. dont remember wich build i installed exactly but it whas somewhere from this forum

 
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