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Question [Q] Focus + network type changing

Currently experiencing "hiccup" in internet/data experience with my focus. If phone is not in 3G+ mode, i get no data.

Can someone confirm my theory;

Situation:
Purchased Samsung Focus from rogers, thus rogers network profile (preset network setting for data usage such as MMS or internet).

Unlocked and stuck in bell SIM. can send/recieve calls, and txts, use data (internet, marketplace, weather updates, etc) if phone is in 3G+ mode (seen by tapping near top of screen). Can not use MMS

Presumable:
1)Focus was initially programmed to work on Rogers network.
2)Focus/Rogers, have a GPRS & EDGE capability

Theory:
Focus is programmed to use 3G radio for data (which is more widely accessible, & consumes less power), until detects 3G+/HSPA network and switch to that HSPA radio.
Since bell does not have a GPRS or EGDE network, when phone tries to receive data through 3G radio, it get nothing because no GPRS or EGDE network.
Is this possible, can phones change network they're using?

Theorized Solution:?????
Since Bell has 3G+ network,and they offer LG quantum. Could LG quantum be initially programmed to only use 3G+/HSPA, therefore anytime data is requested it activates the 3G+ radio.
If this is true of the LG quantum, could this be programmed into the Focus as well.

Thus i ask the community is this possible and how to implement solution?????


Sidenote:
I know the easiest solution would be to change to Rogers, however, Canadian provider fees are ridiculous (i'd be incurring early cancellation fee + a new restrictive costly plan from rogers) and there are others which don't have a choice but to use bell, and should have the freedom to choose a device of there choice with a little work.
 
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I'm hitting a similar issue on Fido. The cell side works, and data only works if I enable data roaming. I downloaded the Network Profile app, but it won't let me get anything as it tells me "The application can't be launched with your mobile operator."
 
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I'm hitting a similar issue on Fido. The cell side works, and data only works if I enable data roaming. I downloaded the Network Profile app, but it won't let me get anything as it tells me "The application can't be launched with your mobile operator."
I think in your case it's just a matter of adding a APN.

Follow the instruction in the follow thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843517

a search for "FIDO APN" on google, and i found this;
FIDO

Name: fido internet
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido

APN Type: default
Leave All other Settings Blank
MMS
Name: fido mms
APN: mms.fido.ca
MMSC: http://mms.fido.ca
MMS Proxy: 205.151.011.013
APN Type: mms
Leave All other Settings Blank

That should get your data working, and you wont be incurring roaming charges.

Other then that, let me know if your having a similar issue to above, i don't think you should as FIDO is a pure GSM network from day one so it'll have GPRS/EDGE/HSPA
 
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Default MMS

Interesting the various issues people are having with connecting to different networks...doesn't seem to be a one-size-fits-all issue/solution.

In my case, I got a new Rogers sim card (unlocked AT&T branded Focus from Expansys), put it in, updated my APN info, and I have voice and data.

BUT, I have no texting/messaging ability! I know others have listed the MMS settings for Rogers, but the Focus seems to only allow adding *one* APN setting. No clue where the MMS settings can be applied.

Other friends who have Rogers sims were able to put it in their Focus and had no problems at all with texting, internet, etc.

Anyone have thoughts on this issue, please respond.
 
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I think in your case it's just a matter of adding a APN.

Follow the instruction in the follow thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843517
The instructions appear to be for the LG device, not the Samsung Focus. The code doesn't get me into any factory menu. The diagnostics screen just sits when I type in the code. I downloaded the Network Profile app but it errors out saying "The application can't be launched with your mobile operator".
 
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OMG, I'm an idiot!

So apparently Rogers requires 1+area code for sending texts? Telus didn't...*sigh*...

So yes, I have texting ability (haven't tried MMS though).
 
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Samsung's response:

http://www.wpcentral.com/samsung-our...econfiguration

Now that this issue got publicity lets see how long they keep up this attitude?


UPDATE:
COuld it be MS to the rescue?

"Microsoft is aware of the problem and it has been escalated."

Source:
http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-pho...mms-quite-mess
Device 1: {RIP} HTC Touch Pro (CDMA Wi-Fi) - USB Stick/MP3 - collecting dust
Device 2: Samsung Focus (Rogers:unlocked) - new life, passed on to family
Device 3: Samsung Galaxy Note (Bell:rooted)
 
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Not much to add other than I'm in the same situation as reaver_shadow. Bought from Rogers, unlocked it and put in Bell SIM card. Everything works except MMS and data if not on 3G+ (will work when '3G' is displayed, but I guess it's borderline). Tried playing with option *#2263# in Samsung Diagnosis (##634# + Dial), but does not fix the issue. Hoping the Network Profile will become available for changing. Using the Network Profile app from Samsung does not work. Says it does not work with my provider. Says active profile is 'Rogers'.

Update:
Probably just lucky, but I have had a steady connection since this morning. I set option 2-7 under Diagnosis option *#2263# (use all WCDMA Band). What maybe did the trick is enabling Roaming, as mentioned by @colinbo. My apn is set to pda.bell.ca.

Update:
Nope, just luck. :(
 
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Have you tried this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...46#post9709346

That's how I got data working on SaskTel. Since we're using similiar technologies, it may work for you as well.
 
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That's great!! I'll give it a try. Never thought about pressing the 'back' button. I should know next week if this solves it.

 
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