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Default Here are some shots of my Pixel Qi

screen with back light on and off. Indoors and out. This is a first generation Qi on a Lenovo laptop.
note: These are poor phone camera images. The first two are inside with normal lamp light. The second two are full sun (notice the sharp shadows) at my back with a slight angle to get rid of the glare. 1st generation Qi is not matte like Adam. The blue tint is probably from a white balance problem. The true whites on the screen are paper white and the blacks are black with definition. The screen was tuned with Adobe Gamma.
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Default From questions on another forum I will answer some

of them here for you.

The Pixel Qi in LCD back light on mode functions like any other LCD. My color, saturation and sharpness is just like any other LCD at the same size and resolution. In back lite off it functions the same as the LCD with back light on except less color down to gray scale.

You are not getting a sub-par LCD. You are getting a normal LCD with enhanced modes. It is a positive. No negatives. You have not lost anything to gain the other. I can read my screen with a 4 graph array in my office with the back light off from 6' away. I can read for hours in full Florida sunlight with no more eye strain than you would have from reading any other 10" screen. The refresh rate is instantaneous just like any LCD.
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thanks for the photos! i didnt know they already had a PQ in a notebook already. from all the images, i'm hoping Adam will look the same. what's the highest resolution the notebook is using btw?
 
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Default You need no buy it and install it yourself

1024 X 600 at 32 bit

Maker Shed
http://www.makershed.com/ProductDeta...uctCode=MKPQ01

Bought the Lenovo off Fleabay for couple hundred used. There are only a few laptops it will fit on and function correctly. Several videos on how to do it. Never opened a laptop before and I didn't break anything. Use it in my work in Florida every day. No longer have to run for shade to add notes or read something. Can sit by the pool and read RSS for hours. Add the extra memory to the S10-2 if you want a bunch of window open at once, otherwise base memory is fine. WIFI is very good for G.
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Default Some nomenclature so at least you can sound like

you know what your are talking about.

Pixel Qi has three modes.

transmissive mode = back light on like regular laptop LCD
transflective mode = Back light turned down and good ambient light (Some say this is the best mode for reading.)
reflective = back light off. Ambient light used 100% to read the screen.

I use transflective mode when reading outside as it gives me a bit of color in the photos.

Read this site and blog and you will know what you are talking about.
http://www.pixelqi.com/
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Default Matte for the Adam?

I thought there was not yet confirmation about the matte screen because of difficulties with green pixels, especially when the extra gap of the touch screen comes into play.

Also note that the Pixel Qi to be used in the adam is meant to be considerably better as it is the third? generation of Pixel Qi. (Maybe second by I seem to remember reading third?).

Even thougth it is very tempting to pre-order, It surely has to be worth the wait to see user reviews before going ahead and buying? I know I want one yestreday, but I am forcing myself to wait... Painful as that is!
I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

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Default I believe he said matte, just not how much matte

In blog when talking about matte screen he says"

"We told you how much we love Matt (that’s one reason why all the monitors here are from Dell). We have invested a lot of time in figuring out the right surface values which gives the perfect combination of 2 worlds (no reflection property of matt and scratch resistant property of glossy surface).

"It took us really long and was really harder for the manufacturers to make what we wanted. We can’t compromise on few things and this was one of them.

"(You need to open it in another tab and see it full screen). If you can see (I hope you do), you will see small green fringes and speckles. Matt surfaces don’t work well with Green colors and creates diffusion around green pixels. You Dell screens look good for two reason, one they have done good job and two, they don’t have to deal with the gap of touch screen in LCD monitors. Gaps add more refractions. Please see the next illustrations for more understanding.

"We have done a good work when it comes to both of these issues and you can observe the same in the final product".

I believe he has said the screen will be matte. It is a question of "how much matte" that is open to interpretation.
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Default Generation

"Also note that the Pixel Qi to be used in the adam is meant to be considerably better as it is the third? generation of Pixel Qi. (Maybe second by I seem to remember reading third?)."

There really is no way at this point to figure out what generation the screens are. All she has said is that Adam will have "their latest and greatest." I have the Makershed "do it yourself" version which seems to have a wider viewing angle than what they were calling their 1st generation at CES 2010. Was this first gen. production, off the work bench, out the door" Who knows.

On one of the Qi videos they have one version they are showing off they called their "next generation" and then they go inside and get another newer version to show off. This was back in the summer.

Adam could be getting 10th generation for all we know, but at least we will be getting her "latest and greatest". I am sure we will be getting the screen they will be showing off at CES. Would not make sense for them to dis their best customer by showing off a better screen than was coming out on a product that was just starting to be shipped.
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I see both of these companies going far, Notion Ink and Pixel. Eventually you may even see Pixel displays on smartphones.

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