Thanks a lot for the extensive feedback !
Although the preparation for this release was long - it wasn't the first approach to finish 0.3 and I tested many things in the process - it shows that I did the final thing in a hurry.
Let's regard this as a beta test for 0.4 . It will be best to just answer to some posts:
Originally Posted by shree.cse
Everything except Sound in voice calls. But we can wait for a fix from the next Ubuntu related kernel.
Thank you Dcorders!
Originally Posted by pkchips
Wow this is absolutely awesome!
Dcordes, any idea if we might ever get in-call audio support? I might actually start using ubuntu on my phone full time!
It is definetly possible but exceeds my personal capabilities. Non working audio in any non-android builds is due to the fact that the way sound works in android is different vs conventional Linux. This applies to following functions:
-battery status (might get fixed)
-backlight (my friend GNUtoo fixed it, see kernel changelog)
-power saving functions like sleep (might get fixed)
-accelerated graphics (unlikely to ever get it working)
This is not limited to Ubuntu. If you try to get meego going you will face the same problems.
You might judge google for it - that way people have a hard time getting non-android on there phones. Economically it is not of interest for google when you guys have the freedom of choice...
It always seems android gives the user so many liberties but these things restrict the full spectrum of possibilites Linux has to offer.
That said, without android we wouldn't see so many cell phone hw platfroms with Linux support today!
Originally Posted by cortk
For those people not getting the unity interface, I did this:
I clicked on my storage card on the desktop, then clicked the purple computer icon in the toolbar, then clicked file system, usr, share, applications, login items. Clicked unlock, entered "ubuntu" as password, changed the login environment to the netbook one (instead of blank), then clicked close.
Pressed the lock icon on topmost taskbar, switch user, clicked power button and shut down, rebooted.
Stupidly I assumed because netbook-launcher-efl (that's the name of the fancy background menu program) started 10/10 times in my local tests, I thought it would work for everybody else. I start it via gnome session startup with some seconds delay. Maybe with a faster SD card it is too early
You can always add the main menu in the panel:
Tap and hold (not so easy, make sure you have clean screan) on the top panel for few seconds and then relase. That simulates right click. You can now add main menu or menu bar in order to start applications. In system / startup programs you can edit the delay in order to fix.
Or you can work around it by changing the default session to ubuntu netbook 2d - also via system menu.
Originally Posted by TacoLoco
Pls somebody make a lil video.. Still waiting for my new display but want to see this in action
I would also welcome a video. Could add it in the first post.
Originally Posted by curiousGeorge
Performance is certainly better this time around. I think posting (part of) the readme on the first page would help a lot of confused users. It includes a changelog, password (ubuntu), a list of what works and what doesn't, etc -- just like the Android builds.
My impressions of 0.3 are in some respects better than 0.2, but for all of my use cases, it is one step forward, 2 (or 3) steps backward. But I do not mean ANY insult by this, honestly. It is obvious a lot of work has gone into the release, despite delays. The lack of sound and keypad (X issue? Did you open a ticket/report?) and proper stand-by are the biggest remaining administrative niggles. I'm impressed by the Unity interface, even though it occasionally fails to load properly. (It loaded the first time, but on every subsequent reboot it never loads.)
- I see the available memory is now 412.3MB. This is good.
- Applications (as well as boot) speeds are much improved.
- There is no openoffice. This is a big regression, since the "Zoho" nonsense is no better than Office Mobile, Android's QuickOffice, or anything else, but much worse due to compatibility trouble, functionality, and usability on the go. A big allure to "Ubuntu" is that it contains full desktop compatible software, not watered-down items tethered to an internet connection (read below: wifi does not work). Real Office (OpenOffice) was one if not THE major use case for Ubuntu on the device, since a system with no sound, no calls, etc is only truly useful for desktop use cases.
- Wifi does not work, and my home network is not even detected. I'm looking into this and seeing if there isn't something I can do to get it running. (edit: only eth0 interface is detected by wicd, there is no wlan anywhere). Is the firmware included?
- Battery status partially works (you need to click an icon to get the status and fill %), and charging still does not seem to work (tested by hooking the USB to the computer).
All in all, this release is not usable in its current form -- no unity launching, I had to create desktop launchers for system monitor, terminal, etc, and no wifi means no ability to download openoffice from software center, I cannot browse the web or view/work on documents, etc.
An impressive effort, and I can see this is a step forward. But again, it is with great pain (and hours of struggle with the system) that I must report that for me it is multiple steps backward as well. I also wish, in hindsight, that the development progress had been posted here so I could comment/test/help out wherever I could. I'm going to keep trying to enable wifi, which will allow me to debug Unity (or remove it and install a real netbook interface like KDE's).
Geroge, thanks for this thought out and extensive feed
I will add some info in first post.
I'm glad you noticed the performance improvement
It is a good idea to report the keypad problem in Xorg mailing list.
Standby requires minor driver patching. Nothing impossible.
I noticed the subsequent hanging on early boot as well. I am considering to switch to the other kernel repository (evo based). I am using htc-msm-2.6.32 because it was easier to add the gnu specirfic patches.
iirc canonical is unable to provide oo.org via the repositories in maverick due to arm related build time problem. Try adding a ppa package !
For me scanning for wifi networks works. Anybody else havging trouble?
It is expected to not see charging mode when using usb host kernel. Also note it charges much slower on pc..
Regarding debugging: Did you notice it has automatic usbnet and adb capabilities? please check readme regarding it.
Readme also has the link to the wiki page which documnents many things needed to reconstruct the images.
Originally Posted by matejdro
Mine shows me error "bad newroot" and then reboots. Any idea?
Make sure you have the linux folder in the root directory of your sd card. Else try formatting sd card.
Originally Posted by denyboy
mine everytime restarts the phone...weird
becoure every android build works
Strange that only ubuntu wont work. I know these are different worlds but sill...
Originally Posted by jameschurchman
this is really really good!!! so thanks guys, far better than i could even imagine ubuntu would be on a phone!
bigest annoyance for me!! no screen rotation. it was in the last one. As the screen is not 768 px high, many windows you cant click the buttons, so i cant install anything from the syn package manager. does anybody know a fix? there was an icon to rotate the screen for 0.2!
the hardware buttons or right click, drag window etc.. no longer work as they did in 0.2
sound is no biggeie for me, tho (and i know if might not be possible there might not be linux drivers for the HD2) but i would love bluetooth, to allow a bluetooth keyboard. this would make the HD2 + ope office a real option!!
Thanks again guys, you have done an amazing job! (and any work around for the screen rotation, i tried changing the boot script to screenrotation=0 but that did nothing! )
I will definetly add the rotation again in 0.4 . I simply frogot it. Look into using command line to install prgorams for now. I might append the xorg.conf for rotation but we also need shortcuts and disable the touchscreen rotation script.
Originally Posted by en!gma
This is a good effort, but being unable to restore the overlay is a deal-breaker for me.
Also, the mouse orientation at the login screen (not the lock screen) is incorrect, which makes shutting down a hassle.
I need to check what went wrong with that. Thanks for reporting it !
Originally Posted by oxdamas
thanks a lot for the release
a bit disappointing gnome no sound
keyboard always in the way and not very responsive
anyway thanks a lot for the effort and privtlege
The keyboard was not designed for touchscreen devices. I added some bug reports to report it in ubuntu launchpad.
Originally Posted by Sinistersky
will this work for omnia i8000?
If it is a linux based device with enough performance we can look into it. It would be very nice to run this on the dell streak as well.
Originally Posted by HJ200
I've been running Ubuntu v0.2 on my HD2 a few months ago. I'm currently running Android as my main OS. Is it possible to boot Ubuntu from within Android?
It is easy to boot a new linux kernel from within linux. You just need the kexec kernel configuration option.
Originally Posted by laithnkirk
hey mate i don't know if it is in the read me or in somewhere else all i know that i went to the :
when i want to install it i got the authorization message which wants me to type a password so what is the password it is not Ubuntu
and for god sake where is the @ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
sudo is authorized automatically (see readme) this might be some gnome keyring stuff which you can abort usually..
Originally Posted by Jaxbot
This just had to be released while I was on my vacation away from my HD2, didn't it? Can't wait to try it out..will probably release a video soon too.
Nice work dcordes!
Videos would be very nice.
Originally Posted by Luke3113
Just installed it and after restarting I got the menu...
Now I tried connecting a mouse with a (self-built) Y-cable.
The Y-cable worked perfectly ond the v0.2, but now it seems to have problems...
I connected everything (1 to the computer, 1 to the mouse, 1 to the hd2) like I did with v0.2, started the phone, started haret, but it just doesn't recognize my mouse... why? It recognize the power and runs on external power, but my mouse just doesn't work...
Am I doing it properly?
Thanks for your help...
Can you try the exact hardware setup with 0.2 ? Are you sure you are using the usb host kernel? Please double check your startup.txt !
It would be very nice to see some video or photos with 0.3 w/ usb setup
Thanks again for all the feedback this helps a lot to improve further versions!