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Unhappy [WARNING] DavinciDevelopers steal apps from this forum !

/!\ BE AWARE OF YOUR APP, DavinciDevelopers try to steal them and sell them on the market !!

Hello guys,

Be careful, if you post an apk of your free app here, somebody will try to take the apk, remove the signature, and upload it as a paid version on the market !

The proofs : (edited to add new stolen softwares)

Llamadroid
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0#post10113570
- http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...oid-zzjjD.aspx
(removed today, on 5th january)

Typo clock
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814054
- http://www.appbrain.com/app/beautifu...cuda.typoclock

Iron soldiers
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862875
- http://www.appbrain.com/app/iron-sol...a.ironSoldiers
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)

Championship racing 2010
- http://www.vividgames.com/sub_game.php?id=42
- http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...010-zzxwq.aspx
(removed today, on 5th january)

Liquid wallpaper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878252
http://www.appbrain.com/app/liquid-p...llpaper.liquid

Bluetooth Scanner
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900923
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_g...nner_pvqg.html
(New !! Now, we have proof that ALL his apps are stolen)

And even Gameloft best sellers (paid games) :
http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...rta-zjCDi.aspx
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)
http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...tar-zjCEx.aspx
(removed from market today, on 5th january, but still referenced)

Minigore
http://minigore.blogspot.com/2009/07...nigore-is.html
http://www.appbrain.com/app/minigore...games.minigore
http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...ore-zzjqD.aspx

Zuma's revenge
Original
http://www.zumasrevengegame.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3620/
Scammers
http://www.appbrain.com/app/zumas-re....zumas_revenge
http://www.appbrain.com/app/zumas-re...e.zumasrevenge


How is it possible ?
Google does not check your apk signature when you upload a software.
Even if you signed yous apk with you key, somebody else can put this on his google account.
The signature can be deleted easily if needed.
He can change the title of your app, so nobody see it, but he can't change the apk name nor the icon.

Why do we post our apk here ?
To have testers, to correct bugs, to have a perfect look and feel before put it on the market.
Because on the market people are rude, we have only one chance, so we need to avoid bugs.
And when we put our app online, we want to choose if it's paid or free (with ads or not).

What is the problem ?

If DavinciDevelopers steal and upload your app, he will lock your pak name.
2 apps can't have the same name on the market.

You may have a name like com.myname.myapp.apk
Where "myname" is the same in every app you do.
If he take that, this is a major issue for you because you will be associated to him on every search (google.com, market...).

So, you will have to change your app name and maybe your company name....

Within 1 or 2 days, the market is parsed from androlib, androidzoom, appbrain... and it's done. Google.com will see those websites, and you are trapped.

You will have your buggy app on the market, some people will pay for that, the thief will have some money, and every users will have a bad opinion of your app.


Why DavinciDevelopers does this ?

To make benefit from your work.
Because he doesn't care you are working from a long time on your app.
Because he doesn't care if your work is ruined, he will find somebody else.


How can we be protected ?

Because 2 apps can't have the same name, you should put your app on the market first.
If your app is in development stage, you can upload it as "draft", so it will not be visible on the market, but the name will be locked.


Who is DavinciDevelopers ?

Somebody that have 83 apps on the market !
Almost all of them are themes.
If you look the package name you can see for example :
com.nd.android.pandatheme.p__3d_android_theme
at :
http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...eme-qAmiz.aspx

google search : "pandatheme", first link :
http://home.pandaapp.com:888/

So he is not a developer. He makes themes with a free online tool and sell them... nice.

And for the real apps he uploaded (about 5), they all are stolen, coming from poland, germany, and other places.
Almost every of them comes from XDA dev forums.


ps : this message should be marked as sticky in every development section.
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Is it worth marking all these apps as objectionable to draw Google's attention to this issue?

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Today, 2 of those links has been removed already !

Maybe somebody sent emails to every publishers...

I hope google will understand this and ban this thief.
 
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I have posted about it on reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comm...west/?sort=hot

Someone who works for google replied and said they're looking into it.
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Could you please link this post to you post ? Or give to the "google man" the list of the apps we found here ?

This kind of guy should be banned from google forever (if it's possible )

One thing I don't understand :

Google should give to every developer a private key that we could use to compile the apk.
Something we should not be able to remove.
So the developer who generates the apk could be sure it would be uploadable only into his account.

It sounds simple but...
 
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Could you please link this post to you post ? Or give to the "google man" the list of the apps we found here ?
I've linked to this thread from the reddit story.

Also, you have written that Zuma's Revenge is by Blue_sprit. But the real zuma's revenge is a famous game from popcap, I think blue_spirit is actually another scammer.

http://www.zumasrevengegame.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/3620/
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Well done post edited !
 
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Google should give to every developer a private key that we could use to compile the apk.
Something we should not be able to remove.
It's not possible to add something, that is impossible to remove. Cryptography makes possible to check that something was created by someone, but not that it wasn't.
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Dang that sucks that people are ripping dev's off. I have high respect for Dev's. Not being one, I don't know all the ins and outs of developing apps but I'm sure it's a very deeply involved process that nobody should rip off. Jeez. I hope these idiots are banned from the market. Is there a formal process that someone can start to get these apps credited to their rightful owners?
 
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