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Question [Q] Honeycomb Tegra 2 platform question

Ok, so notion ink releases a statement about how their hardware was changed to support Ventana instead of Harmony.

h ttp://notionink.wordpress. com /2011/02/08/in-the-mean-time/

Harmony and Ventana are two Tegra platforms and in September we made few hardware changes to make Adam Ventana compatible. That was done cos we sensed only Ventana devices will be able to run Honeycomb and we were right.

Next I checked nvidias developer website and saw this:

h ttp://developer.nvidia. com /tegra/devkit-ventana

The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" and above. The development kit is a quasi-tablet design and includes many devices and sensors found in Android based tablets.


So my questions are the following:

Is there any truth to the Honeycomb only running well on Ventana and not Harmony?
Is ventana a specific piece of hardware?
If not, is it just a set of "recommended" hardware features?
Will the current G tablet meet the requirements for ventana development if it is just software/recommended hardware?


I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with to many questions at once.

Karl

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Ok, so notion ink releases a statement about how their hardware was changed to support Ventana instead of Harmony.

h ttp://notionink.wordpress. com /2011/02/08/in-the-mean-time/

Harmony and Ventana are two Tegra platforms and in September we made few hardware changes to make Adam Ventana compatible. That was done cos we sensed only Ventana devices will be able to run Honeycomb and we were right.

Next I checked nvidias developer website and saw this:

h ttp://developer.nvidia. com /tegra/devkit-ventana

The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" and above. The development kit is a quasi-tablet design and includes many devices and sensors found in Android based tablets.


So my questions are the following:

Is there any truth to the Honeycomb only running well on Ventana and not Harmony?
Is ventana a specific piece of hardware?
If not, is it just a set of "recommended" hardware features?
Will the current G tablet meet the requirements for ventana development if it is just software/recommended hardware?


I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds with to many questions at once.

Karl

Note: Please forgive the url formatting. I haven't posted enough to be allowed to post URLs yet.
Well, Notion Ink is not a reliable source, IMHO. However, if he was able to make a few simple HW mods to his existing Harmony device, and the rest is true, I do not see an problem making similar HW mods to the gtab, should they be necessary.

However, more likely, Honeycomb will run on harmony, and/or Notion Ink is lying.

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I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
 
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I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
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If you haven't figured out yet that for the most part Rohan is talking out his .... then I don't know what to tell you. It's amazing how an upstart overseas company seems to be able to know the future before anyone else....eden is close to honeycomb....adam is venetta
 
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I do agree that Notion Ink cannot be quoted as a truly reliable source, but I hadn't even heard about there being 2 different platforms for the Tegra 2. Also, with the fact of the Xoom coming out this month, means it had to be in production for a while so how did they manage to do it? Also, how did NI make hardware changes in september of '10 for Ventana if the nvidia blogs says the chips won't be out till the end of Feb '11? It's very odd from the bit of digging that I've done.
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If you haven't figured out yet that for the most part Rohan is talking out his .... then I don't know what to tell you. It's amazing how an upstart overseas company seems to be able to know the future before anyone else....eden is close to honeycomb....adam is venetta
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Do you mean "official" Honeycomb support? (i.e. from Viewsonic)

Or unofficial Honeycomb? (i.e. via xda-developers ROMs)

The Nook Color is running Honeycomb (though just a hacked preview based on the pre-SDK) pretty well...It's screen resolution is the same as the gTablet, and it's specs are worse...

I wouldn't bet on a release from Viewsonic...I'd be willing to wager that there will be a Honeycomb port for gTablet within a few weeks (or less) of the Xoom being released...

So mid-March...LOL...
 
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I'd be willing to wager that there will be a Honeycomb port for gTablet within a few weeks (or less) of the Xoom being released...
I totally agree with that one... BTW, I wouldn't be too worried regarding hardware spec requirements for Honeycomb - if somebody can port it to the Dell Streak (http://www.mytabletlife.com/2011/02/...oneycomb-port/), then I'm sure that even if there were different Tegra2 versions, it wouldn't be much of a show-stopper.
 
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I am afraid to revive this post that is almost a month and half old but i found a post at nvidia and i realized that the main question was not yet answered or clarified.

Any ideas on this??

http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/fo...eycomb-harmony
 
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I still can't find definitive answers as to the difference between harmony and ventana.
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