[AINUR AUDIO] SAURON MK III [paused] | NARSIL MK I [upd 09.09.2021]

[Wolfcity]

It does more than stock audio effects is what I'm getting at, if I didnt have a dumb amount of play credit, I wouldn't spend real money on it tho, and like I said, its not the same compared to James DSP and others but for me, it does better for me and at least works better than viper and the stock sound effects does right now sorry, sorry if you can't understand that some people just are tired of dealing with compatibility issues with all this various sound/audio enchancements, it's better than stock, not better if your able to actually get viper, James and others actually working

Have you tried Wavelet ? No root needed,well known developer (viper).

 

[Techguy777]

Have you tried Wavelet ? No root needed,well known developer (viper).

You guys do realize wavelet doesn't use root access? Meaning alls it really does is change the equalizer settings? Viper actually go into system and adds its own driver same thing with jamesdsp. Hes not the real developer of viper viper520 is and he just walked away years ago and I can't understand why. He made one of the greatest Android modification tools you could say ever. This guy who made wavelet just made modifications to the apk to install properly and work with later androids which is awesome but unfortunately everyone thinks he made it and takes credit for something another developer did. So then you guys think well if he created viper this new app is going to sound awesome but it doesn't I've tried it. Sounds like **** everyone just thinks it sounds good like a placebo effect. Sorry I just get tired of everyone thinking if someone on XDA is developing anything it has to be good. No if you stop lying to yourselves then youll come to the right conclusions.

Notice how everyone likes viper? Thats because it truly works and is awesome you dont see that with any other cound mod. However james dsp on my Tab S8 for speakers is good for the added gain. If viper was working though it wouldn't be you don't have to like something just because someone on XDA made it

 

[Wolfcity]

You guys do realize wavelet doesn't use root access? Meaning alls it really does is change the equalizer settings? Viper actually go into system and adds its own driver same thing with jamesdsp. Hes not the real developer of viper viper520 is and he just walked away years ago and I can't understand why. He made one of the greatest Android modification tools you could say ever. This guy who made wavelet just made modifications to the apk to install properly and work with later androids which is awesome but unfortunately everyone thinks he made it and takes credit for something another developer did. So then you guys think well if he created viper this new app is going to sound awesome but it doesn't I've tried it. Sounds like **** everyone just thinks it sounds good like a placebo effect. Sorry I just get tired of everyone thinking if someone on XDA is developing anything it has to be good. No if you stop lying to yourselves then youll come to the right conclusions.

Notice how everyone likes viper? Thats because it truly works and is awesome you dont see that with any other cound mod. However james dsp on my Tab S8 for speakers is good for the added gain. If viper was working though it wouldn't be you don't have to like something just because someone on XDA made it

You're quoting me while talking to "you guys" who haven't any knowledge.
First thing: I didn't say that the developer of Wavelet is the same one who originally made Viper4Android. I said he's a well known developer and yes, he's known as part of Team de Witt for creating the actual Viper apps (and these are well known).
I know that the original effects engine of Viper4Android was developed by XDA Member viper520 and maintained by XDA Recognized Contributor zhuhang.
Btw, @zhuhang is inactive but still on XDA (last visit august 2022) while @viper520 is indeed inactive since 2012.
They will have their reasons.
Team de Witt doesn't just make "some modifications" to Viper, they reverse engineered the whole (closed source) app and made it a lot more usable.
If you count the posts on XDA like "I can't get Viper working on android version 9/10/11/12/13 or device x" it shows the problem of getting a really old app properly installed on new and massively changed android versions.
On the other hand rooting gets a lot more complicated (keyword cat and mouse game) and many people don't see the benefit of rooting anymore.
For those Wavelet is an alternative, if you think it sounds like **** it's your opinion, there's no sense to argue about sound, everyone has his own expression or opinion about what sounds good or bad.
I'm using Wavelet for a long time now and in combination with poweramp and a set of good headphones I get a nice sound (for my ears). Yes, Viper or James DSP have more options to modify the sound more deeply but for non rooted users Wavelet is a useable alternative and definitely not just a placebo effect. Maybe you have to dive a little bit deeper into it's settings especially the EQs.
So if you don't like it and you're one of the users who want to root their device and also belong to the lucky ones with an (older?) device where it's installable go and use it.
But don't tell other people what is crap just because you don't like it.
On my older rooted devices Viper is my first choice too and I'm into rooting/modding since the Froyo/Gingerbread days.
And please do me a favor:
If you quote me don't tell me "you guys".

 

[Sayujya_06]

Please share me the mk III

 

[Rikj000]

Please share me the mk III

After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.
Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.

 

[ezzony]

- LG v20/30/30+/g6/g7/v40

As above the OP says it has support for the above LG models, but what about the LG V50, or has this simply been been omitted from the OP?

V50 doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the V20 imo. Would it be possible to disable the filters altogether? It seems there is always one selected, not none at all. The V20 doesn't have any filters, but sounds way better. For some reason the V50 soundstage sounds crippled and I'm wondering if the filters are causing this.

 

[DvineLord]

After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.
Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.

I tried using sauron on los 18.1 on my lg g2 d800 and it made my device unstable. im using latest aml, acp and regular v4a module. i was using magisk v23 at time. im currently using magisk delta 25.2-beta-5. maybe new magisk versions will make it stable!?

 

[Rikj000]

I tried using sauron on los 18.1 on my lg g2 d800 and it made my device unstable. im using latest aml, acp and regular v4a module. i was using magisk v23 at time. im currently using magisk delta 25.2-beta-5. maybe new magisk versions will make it stable!?

Has no audio issues since my previous post, updated Viper4Android-RE to v0.3.0.

If I compare the audio output of my Android phone and Linux desktop,
both with Spotify + Bluetooth + Same Bluetooth speaker used for output.

Then in it's current state, my Android phone wins in audio quality by a mile.

 

[DvineLord]

@Rikj000 , i flashed ainur sauron and my phone seems to be stable. thanks for the nudge to flash it again. now all i have to do is get a working dolby atmos module and all will back to how i had it on nougat.

 

[gift2uma]

After a while of looking I still found a mirror / download link for the Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip.

https://android.biblprog.org.ua/ru/ainur-audio/download/

At first sight it appears to be running without issues on my LineageOS 20 / Android 13 OnePlus 9 Pro build.
Using it in combination with Viper4Android-RE v0.2.0 + Audio Modification Library v4.2.0.

I have the same combo on my N9600 running A10. Can't wait for viper4android-RE to get playback gain control working.

 

[gift2uma]

So I just installed Ainur narsil [ mk i ] via magisk as it supports A10... And bloody hell... wow!!!! I'm excited to own a rooted Samsung note again...
Can confirm this works on N9600 running magisk 26.1, lsposed + Viper4Android-RE 0.3.0 + aml.

 

[CaptianXLAB]

Hello, im running Android 13, Pixel 7 Pro stock ROM patched with Magisk 26.1, with AML and v4a-RE 0.3.0. (if it matters - im also using 32bit helper magisk patch for pixel 7/7pro to add 32bit abi support)

Just installed Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip magisk module.

Can confirm v4a-RE still works but I don't know what the zip did / what effects it added and how to control them. This is the first time I'm using this mod, does it come with any app to control things like v4a?

Do I have to install apps manually?
Thanks

 

[gift2uma]

Hello, im running Android 13, Pixel 7 Pro stock ROM patched with Magisk 26.1, with AML and v4a-RE 0.3.0. (if it matters - im also using 32bit helper magisk patch for pixel 7/7pro to add 32bit abi support)

Just installed Ainur Sauron MK III 12.08.2019 (latest) zip magisk module.

Can confirm v4a-RE still works but I don't know what the zip did / what effects it added and how to control them. This is the first time I'm using this mod, does it come with any app to control things like v4a?

Do I have to install apps manually?
Thanks

OP:
User determined features:
You can set these features with sauron_useroptions (UO) file, by placing it to the root of the internal storage. Installer will place the file there during the install, if it's not there already. After resetting values you have to reinstall Sauron each time you want to try/set something new. Some of the stuff there can break sound completely - there is no fix for that, you have to reset stuff back & don't use some of the features that breaks normal use of your device.

 

[Yeedatoy]

- LG v20/30/30+/g6/g7/v40

As above the OP says it has support for the above LG models, but what about the LG V50, or has this simply been been omitted from the OP?

V50 doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the V20 imo. Would it be possible to disable the filters altogether? It seems there is always one selected, not none at all. The V20 doesn't have any filters, but sounds way better. For some reason the V50 soundstage sounds crippled and I'm wondering if the filters are causing this.

Any audio mod on LG devices with the DAC will deteriorate the audio. Any of the long time LG developers will tell you for the best audio on any of those LG devices don't mod anything audio related. Best thing you could do is install a custom ROM because they've updated the drivers for the DAC, and also added a toggle so you can manually choose between the three different output settings, line out, headphones etc so you're not limited by what the device chooses based on the ohms of your headphones / speaker or whatever may be connected

 

[ezzony]

Any audio mod on LG devices with the DAC will deteriorate the audio. Any of the long time LG developers will tell you for the best audio on any of those LG devices don't mod anything audio related. Best thing you could do is install a custom ROM because they've updated the drivers for the DAC, and also added a toggle so you can manually choose between the three different output settings, line out, headphones etc so you're not limited by what the device chooses based on the ohms of your headphones / speaker or whatever may be connected

What about equalizer? Or autoeq? All those do what your're saying not to do.

You are talking about the force high impedance mod. I have built that into the kernel for the V20 only recently, so it always works. On the V50 doing it in the mixer paths doesn't work with Tidal so I'm currently working on trying to build it into the V50 kernel so it can't be bypassed by any app.

If I can figure out how to build the V50 kernel I have a plan to improve it by modifying the driver to be more like V20. It might work it might not. Anyway my question about Narsil is redundant now since I have better idea since.

 

[Yeedatoy]

What about equalizer? Or autoeq? All those do what your're saying not to do.

You are talking about the force high impedance mod. I have built that into the kernel for the V20 only recently, so it always works. On the V50 doing it in the mixer paths doesn't work with Tidal so I'm currently working on trying to build it into the V50 kernel so it can't be bypassed by any app.

If I can figure out how to build the V50 kernel I have a plan to improve it by modifying the driver to be more like V20. It might work it might not. Anyway my question about Narsil is redundant now since I have better idea since.

I would suggest sending send a message to SGMarkus. He can most likely run you through whatever you need to do. I think he is the one who got the DAC working correctly on every custom ROM initially. Check the LG V30 telegram thread and there's a bunch of guys in there who could help you out as well. If you can't find Markus on here, You'll find him there They are the ones who released official lineage 13 for the V30, which is an accomplishment for a device released on nougat, and it runs like a bat out of hell. Regarding auto EQ that's something I would definitely use. It's not the equalization that causes any issues since it's just tuning the sound that's already being output, I'm really just referring to anything that modifies the mixer paths or will add audio effect libs or remove them. All of them will negatively affect what LG has perfected. Now if you're editing specific volumes in the mixer paths, You're fine. I just wouldn't mess with anything else that I mentioned. In my experience, even though USB audio player pro is great, especially because Tidal can be opened through the program specifically as well as other music apps, I would only use it for that. See if you have the same issue with Tidal if you open it through USB audio player pro. Neutron in my opinion works much better with LG devices. I feel like you can get much louder output without distortion, you just have to be sure to not enable anything that upsamples. As far as I know, aside from the stock LG music player, the only apps that can bypass Androids built-in mixer which screws up the sample rate are USB audio player pro and Neutron, and I believe Power Amp

 

[ItsLevTOP]

Hello everyone!
Now I am using Android 13 Samsung A50 audio mod jamesdsp which of the mods provided here should I install?
Please help .