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By CDB-Man, Senior Member on 20th April 2014, 08:55 PM
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MX Player 10-bit Video and HEVC Discussion
Back on our old Google Groups forum, we had a long thread of users sharing and discussing their experiences with 10-bit video playback, HEVC playback, device capabilities, and other interesting related topics.

This thread will be a continuation of that discussion. The original thread can be found here:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mx...dz8/discussion

If you have anything you want to share relating to 10-bit playback, hardware support, and MX Player, please join the discussion!

How can I check what hardware codecs are enabled on my phone's GPU?
You can use an App such as Hardware Info: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...a.hardwareinfo

My device is playing Hi10p really poorly, even though it's a very new/powerful phone! What can I do?
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1) h.264 AVC Hi10p can only be played on HW+ for Tegra devices. No exceptions. All non-Tegra devices must use SW for h.264 AVC Hi10p.

2) When using SW Mode:
--> a) Settings -> Decoder -> CPU core limit -> Set to max of whatever your device is
--> b) Settings -> Decoder -> Use speedup tricks

LIST OF DEMANDING Hi10p FILES THAT YOU CAN USE TO TEST YOUR DEVICE (mainly anime as that's what most commonly uses Hi10p)
  1. http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=489663&showfiles=1 This file is fairly demanding at 22.3Mbps bitrate.
  2. Anything from http://coalgirls.wakku.to/ that's 1080p and released in 2013 or later would be 10bit, and would make for a good test. All their files are relatively high bitrate, so it will be a good indicator of the CPU's capabilities with S/W.
  3. If you are willing to waste bandwidth with an even harder test, you could try this: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=552753 12GB and 10835 kbit/s bitrate.
  4. Unique encoding settings: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=557914&showfiles=1 movies 1 or 2. This is also 10bit (720p), but with 4:4:4 subsampling (on movies 1 and 2) as opposed to standard 4:2:0 subsampling.
  5. Very, VERY demanding: HEVC 4K 10bit video @ 51.6 Mb/s: http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=96
  6. Various reference files from libde (including Big Buck Bunny): http://www.libde265.org/downloads-videos/

CDB-Man

Now, a very useful summary by @Dante of the Inferno of the current required specs to successfully play 10-bit files on Android!
Last updated: 2015-08-24
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Hi10p Minimum Hardware Requirements:

x86 Architecture:
720p:

  • 2.0+ GHz Dual Core CPU with integrated graphics (2006 or later)
  • 2.2+ GHz Single Core CPU (up to 30 fps and low bit rate)
1080p:
  • Intel Atom Z3770 (Bay Trail) with integrated graphics (2014 or later)

ARM Architecture:
720p:
  • Snapdragon 600 SoC (2013 or later) - based on quad-core 1.9 GHz Krait 300 CPU and Adreno 320 GPU
1080p:
  • Exynos 7 Octa 7420 (2015 or later) - based on ARM v8
  • Amlogic S812 - based on ARM A9 with octo-core Mali 450 GPU
  • Nvidia Tegra K1
  • Snapdragon 810 (generally should work, but probably only for lower bitrate files)

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20th April 2014, 08:56 PM |#2  
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For reference, the last post on the old thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mx-v...8/V_jwlwm-JoAJ

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On Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:25:37 AM UTC-4, Heng Lok wrote:
Here's an update guys... I just tested out the new Galaxy S5, and it runs 1080p hi10p PERFECTLY. No frame skips in panning scenes. I did not expect a minor update (Snapdragon 801 over an 800) to be able to do it or make much of a difference, but it's now the best mobile device for playing 10 bit video.

It kills the K900's performance in 1080p, as well as other phones using Snapdragon 800. This is the last phone you should ever need with respect to anime viewing. Although I will be waiting for the Snap 805s at the earliest before I change phone again.

That's good news! But have you checked if it can maintain the 1080p Hi10p performance for say an hour long video? It clearly has enough power to render it, but I'm wondering if the frame buffer or queue would die if you played for a video as long as an hour .
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Has anyone else been able to try using the Galaxy S5 for extended 1080p Hi10p playback?
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Two things:

1) I know most modern smartphones can play 10-bit 720p encoded content quite nicely, but just want to chime in that the Galaxy Note 3 Neo (LTE version) with the hexacore Exynos SoC (dual Cortex-A15, quad Cortex-A7) has no problems with such videos. With my only 10-bit 1080p test video, the phone played it back okay, maybe around like 90%?

2) Toshiba recently announced a new 7" Android tablet called the Excite Go running some type of quad-core Intel chip for $110. Possibly might be the cheapest tablet for on-the-go 10-bit video watching even though the screen resolution is only 1024x600?
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Hey CDBrian, maybe you remember me, Arjen de Jong. I am following the Hi10P thread for a long time now.
I saw your last message about playing a long Hi10P video on the Galaxy S5.
I have got a S5 and I'm going to try and watch the movie Eve no Jikan from ZUM in 1080p on the device.
I'll let you know how it goes.
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Hey CDBrian, maybe you remember me, Arjen de Jong. I am following the Hi10P thread for a long time now.
I saw your last message about playing a long Hi10P video on the Galaxy S5.
I have got a S5 and I'm going to try and watch the movie Eve no Jikan from ZUM in 1080p on the device.
I'll let you know how it goes.

Awesome, thanks!
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I just watched a few minutes of the movie, but in panning and quick movement scenes it lags a bit. I don't if this is because of the bitrate (CRF 17,5) but I'm gonna try another 1080p video.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, but I got the G900F, the international Snapdragon variant.
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Yeah, the ZUM 1080p release is 6442 kBit/s 10bit, probably too much.

I believe that the Europe version has the same Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801 @ Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400?
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I just watched a few minutes of the movie, but in panning and quick movement scenes it lags a bit. I don't if this is because of the bitrate (CRF 17,5) but I'm gonna try another 1080p video.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, but I got the G900F, the international Snapdragon variant.

Did you get a chance to try any other videos?
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Anyone try to play with MTK6582 1.7/2.0ghz cpu?

Snapdragon 800/801 has almost the same CPU spec even in antutu benchmark, and for Snapdragon 805 unless it support 10-bit hardware decoding I doubt that it can smoothly playback 15mbps hi10p.

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A chinese review come out for snapdragon 805.
www[dot]igao7[dot]com/s5-ltea-preview.html
conclusion the cpu of 805 is almost as same level as 801
a.k.a no hope for smooth hi10p playback using snapdragon 805
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