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27th June 2017, 08:40 AM |#561  
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Is the Tegra X1 in Pixel C equivalently modern and power efficient as the ones you listed?

It should be more than capable enough on paper, but it only runs one cluster at a time (A53 or A57) so I can not vouch for it. Also, you should take note of the fact that it being an unpopular device, its custom ROM scene is a little desolate, and it is incompatible with many applications due to its SoC.
 
 
28th June 2017, 09:41 AM |#562  
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Well, this may be a tall order, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. Is there any tablet on the market that can handle pretty much whatever I throw at it in regard to 10-bit video and:

- Is currently manufactured (available new from regular vendors)
- Has an FHD or better resolution screen in 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio
- Has a microSD card slot
- Doesn't break the bank ($300ish or less)?

I've been searching for something that fits these specifications for days, and it seems incredibly difficult to find now that Nvidia has pulled the Shield K1 Tablet from the market.
5th July 2017, 11:52 PM |#563  
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It should be more than capable enough on paper, but it only runs one cluster at a time (A53 or A57) so I can not vouch for it. Also, you should take note of the fact that it being an unpopular device, its custom ROM scene is a little desolate, and it is incompatible with many applications due to its SoC.

Got a Pixel C for myself. Plays high bitrate Hi10P AVC without stutters. And hardware accelerated 10-bit HEVC as well.
8th July 2017, 01:40 PM |#564  
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Can codecs run this form of video on my Samsung Tab 3 T110 lite ?
I heard that we can add codecs to MX player..so can I use them on my Samsung Tab 3 T110 lite to watch the x264 h10 bit form ?
14th July 2017, 07:34 PM |#565  
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Well, this may be a tall order, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. Is there any tablet on the market that can handle pretty much whatever I throw at it in regard to 10-bit video and:

- Is currently manufactured (available new from regular vendors)
- Has an FHD or better resolution screen in 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio
- Has a microSD card slot
- Doesn't break the bank ($300ish or less)?

I've been searching for something that fits these specifications for days, and it seems incredibly difficult to find now that Nvidia has pulled the Shield K1 Tablet from the market.

I am in search of exactly this as well, and needs to be able to play 10-bit videos. I have my eye on the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1" with S Pen.
16th July 2017, 07:38 AM |#566  
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So I have a snapdragon 650(Redmi note 3) and Snapdragon 835(Oneplus 5). I have tested some sample HEVC 10bit and H264 10bit videos.

→→→ Snapdragon 650 : Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A72)

Can play H264 10bit upto 720p using s/w decoding flawlessly.

Can also play 1080p 10bit albeit with lower bitrates. lags with high bitrate 1080p 10bit videos.

Supports upto 1080p 60fps hevc HW decoding. 1080p 10bit and 4k hevc 10bit not supported.

Cpu cores are almost fully utilized when playing 1080p h264 10bit. lags heavily when playing hevc 1080p 10bit on s/w decoding

→→→ Snapdragon 835 Octa-core (4x2.45 GHz Kryo & 4x1.9 GHz Kryo) : Best chip currently on market along with Kirin 960 and Exynos 8895

Plays 720p 10bit using s/w decoding flawlessly, Kinda obvious.

Plays 1080p 10bit perfectly even the high bitrate ones.

But lags on some videos with 1080p 10bit high bitrate videos using ssa/ass karaoke subtitles(mxplayer probem?)

H/W decoding support upto 4k 60fps hevc 10bit.

Cpu usage doesn't cross 50% when playing 1080p 10bit videos. Also plays hevc 1080p 10bit videos with s/w decoding without any noticable lag

→→→ Give me Any videos to test. I will post the results here.
18th July 2017, 09:32 AM |#567  
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So I have a snapdragon 650(Redmi note 3) and Snapdragon 835(Oneplus 5). I have tested some sample HEVC 10bit and H264 10bit videos.

→→→ Snapdragon 650 : Hexa-core (4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53 & 2x1.8 GHz Cortex-A72)

Can play H264 10bit upto 720p using s/w decoding flawlessly.

Can also play 1080p 10bit albeit with lower bitrates. lags with high bitrate 1080p 10bit videos.

Supports upto 1080p 60fps hevc HW decoding. 1080p 10bit and 4k hevc 10bit not supported.

Cpu cores are almost fully utilized when playing 1080p h264 10bit. lags heavily when playing hevc 1080p 10bit on s/w decoding

→→→ Snapdragon 835 Octa-core (4x2.45 GHz Kryo & 4x1.9 GHz Kryo) : Best chip currently on market along with Kirin 960 and Exynos 8895

Plays 720p 10bit using s/w decoding flawlessly, Kinda obvious.

Plays 1080p 10bit perfectly even the high bitrate ones.

But lags on some videos with 1080p 10bit high bitrate videos using ssa/ass karaoke subtitles(mxplayer probem?)

H/W decoding support upto 4k 60fps hevc 10bit.

Cpu usage doesn't cross 50% when playing 1080p 10bit videos. Also plays hevc 1080p 10bit videos with s/w decoding without any noticable lag

→→→ Give me Any videos to test. I will post the results here.

There can be various factors apart from codec & bitrate.
Not all hevc 10bit 1080p are same. encoding parameters like bitrate, fps play a vital role.

Apart from video encoding parameters, CPU governing method also plays some important role on SW decoder.
Even it may happen, When your CPU governing method responds to lately to variations in SW decoding loads.

So, we can comment anything on without proper logs & further investigation.

Does it happen with all decoders?
Does it happen when subtitles are disabled?
18th July 2017, 02:01 PM |#568  
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There can be various factors apart from codec & bitrate.
Not all hevc 10bit 1080p are same. encoding parameters like bitrate, fps play a vital role.

Yes sir I am aware of factors like codecs , bitrates and frame rates.

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Apart from video encoding parameters, CPU governing method also plays some important role on SW decoder.
Even it may happen, When your CPU governing method responds to lately to variations in SW decoding loads.

Yes sir but CPU wasn't throttling(temp below 39 degree) so in my case cpu usage was still below 50%.


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Does it happen with all decoders?
Does it happen when subtitles are disabled?

No it doesn't play with h/w decoder as you know 1080p h264 10bit support is rare.

No it doesn't lag when subtitles are disabled. It only lags when playing high bitrate 1080p h264 10bit video via s/w decoding with karaoke ssa/ass subtitles(cpu not event maxed fluctuating b/w 40 %to 60%).

Note: The Video can be played without any lag when subtitles are disabled.

And ssa/ass karaoke subtitles are bit different( laggy animation) on mxplayer but smooth on pc or vlc android.

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Yes sir I am aware of factors like codecs , bitrates and frame rates.



Yes sir but CPU wasn't throttling(temp below 39 degree) so in my case cpu usage was still below 50%.




No it doesn't play with h/w decoder as you know 1080p h264 10bit support is rare.

No it doesn't lag when subtitles are disabled. It only lags when playing high bitrate 1080p h264 10bit video via s/w decoding with karaoke ssa/ass subtitles(cpu not event maxed fluctuating b/w 40 %to 60%).

Note: The Video can be played without any lag when subtitles are disabled.

And ssa/ass karaoke subtitles are bit different( laggy animation and non existent subtitle animation) on mxplayer but smooth on pc or vlc android.

EDIT: Subtitles are better if you tick improve ssa rendering in subtitle option. Didn't know that but still video micro lags when karaoke subtitle is used(cpu usage less than 40%) on snapdragon 835
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Audio Video lags while playing 1080p x265 10 bit video.
Using Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon device.
SoC - Snapdragon 625.
I installed Codec and selected HW+ for all videos but for this 10 bit video HW+ setting shows error and MX player automatically selects SW (software codec). But after that audio lags sometimes.
Can we see improvement in near future in software codec for these videos?
Is there any temporary solution so I can watch it with without lag?
21st July 2017, 04:14 PM |#570  
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It look like the Snapdragon 625 can only hardware decode 8bit hevc h.265

10bit hevc h.265 will have to be software decoded which will max your cpu at 1080p and have very jerky playback and possibly even at 720p and it will kill your battery.

So i suggest you do not download 10bit hevc 10-bit and stick to the h.264 version.

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27th July 2017, 11:44 AM |#571  
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Can someone provide me sample video download link for x265 8 bit and x265 10 bit? I want to check which one I can play in my mobile. Snapdragon 625
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