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Backup YouTube NOW! Google pulling support for YouTube on FireTV!

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By Sizzlechest, Senior Member on 5th December 2017, 09:39 PM
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https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/5/1...w-nest-devices

Back it up while you can!

Link to the current APK: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AjlFvM-kUCwh-j5XfAMn9ySTPBp3

I think they will shut it down from their end. Unless someone can hack the apk, it will cease to work on January 1st.
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6th December 2017, 12:34 PM |#2  
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I read about this yesterday and saw a notification on my fire today. I'm sure a modded apk will resolve this. I also wonder if playing you tube from within kodi will work. Not as nice but it does the job. I went into youtube in kodi and it did not have that notification so that may be a work around. Not the bet but better than nothing. Really sucks that it doesn't show history and has no "home" per say.


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6th December 2017, 09:36 PM |#3  
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I decompiled the YouTube app. I'm not convinced Google knows it's coming from a FireTV from the user agent string. Here's what the app uses:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/27.0.1453.93 Safari/537.36 Mozilla/5.0 (PLAYSTATION 3; 3.55)
6th December 2017, 09:44 PM |#4  
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So that begs the question, how can they block it? Is it just a scare tactic? If they don't know the source is an amazon fire they cannot possibly block it unless they put a youtube update to look for certain hardware criteria to ID it as a fire. If that's the case we just don't update the apk.

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6th December 2017, 11:08 PM |#5  
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they seem to know how, since they are displaying the warning message on fire tvs only
6th December 2017, 11:53 PM |#6  
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What about alternative apps like Newpipe?
7th December 2017, 01:12 AM |#7  
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Im sure the hardware is identified by the build.prop...
7th December 2017, 01:48 AM |#8  
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The YouTube "app" is really just a webview to https://www.youtube.com/TV plus a shim to translate remote control commands. It seems very likely that any block should be trivially evadeable as long as that website remains available-- and since androidTV and smart TV UIs also use the HTML5 website, that isn't going to happen.

My guess is it is indeed something to do with the HTTP user-agent or some sort of other easily cloned fingerprint.
7th December 2017, 05:30 AM |#9  
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Originally Posted by don_ernesto

they seem to know how, since they are displaying the warning message on fire tvs only

Well when I play youtube from kodi it does not display that message so..

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7th December 2017, 01:47 PM |#10  
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert

Well when I play youtube from kodi it does not display that message so..

Right. So the question is how does Google know it's the app vs. Kodi? The user agent string seems pretty generic. Therefore, something else is going on that needs to be found.
7th December 2017, 04:06 PM |#11  
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The Kodi YouTube addon uses the API, which ultimately would be pretty easy to block. The FireTV literally connects to a public website, which is much more difficult. There are tons of ways to fingerprint a browser beyond the user agent.

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