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13th June 2017, 09:11 PM |#11  
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I tried, and I found nothing, so I asked here. Next time, when you don't know something, don't hide yourself behind sarcasm, it's a waste of such a good rhetorical device.

Not a tough find as evidenced by the search query.
 
 
13th June 2017, 10:27 PM |#12  
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Ok, I'm a moron, can you please tell me is sd 425/427 noticeably better than 410 for everyday use?
13th June 2017, 10:46 PM |#13  
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Ok, I'm a moron, can you please tell me is sd 425/427 noticeably better than 410 for everyday use?

I seriously doubt you are a "moron" but do feel you haven't extended much effort to find the answer. Following link references an article 3rd/4th in the search results. Short (spoon feed) answer is 'no'.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...midrange-socs/
13th June 2017, 11:05 PM |#14  
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Of course I used Google first, but I really haven't found this, thanks, now I'm feeling a little less stupid for buying g4 play a month ago.
14th June 2017, 12:06 AM |#15  
Literally, the first result it brought me to was a side-by-side comparison with graphics, charts and beautiful illustrations detailing differences between the two chip sets.

https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapd...snapdragon-425

425 is so close to 410, I wouldn't even call it an upgrade. The only thing not 100% identical is 64-bit processing and a .2ghz nudge in top (factory defined) speed.
14th June 2017, 07:44 AM |#16  
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So as of this morning, Lenovo officially listed the Moto E4 and E4 Plus on their site. Here's the E4 specs:

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And all for $20 cheaper than what most of us paid. Anyone else as pissed as I am?

Year old model replaced by something better a year later as technology allows. Get used to it. I'm not going to be pissed over something I bought in the past being eclipsed by something released in the future.
15th June 2017, 09:11 PM |#17  
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I am honestly shocked by some of the replies I'm seeing. For ALL of the complaints I've seen on this forum (faulty GPS, problems with CDMA carriers, lack of OTA support after nearly a year, etc.), seeing you guys blindly justify the successor just... it boggles my mind. I would be more understanding if the price point for the E4 was the same as the G4P ($150). At least that would make sense from a marketing standpoint. But for them to slash the price to below the G4P, as if to imply that they're phasing out the G4P entirely, just screams that they have no intention of supporting it further. I think that's BS.

Yes, the media is claiming that June will have the drop date for 7.1.1. That's still far from definitive, and there's no guarantee Lenovo won't pull the same thing with Android 8.0 down the road. They just aren't that trustworthy. All I'm going to say is if I hadn't rooted mine, I could think of few equal/better phones for the price (Samsung Galaxy J3, ZTE ZMax 2, LG X Style).

Lenovo does not have a solid strategy with the Moto line. Until they admit to that fact, I'm not going to put my trust in them. It's your call whether you choose to do otherwise.
16th June 2017, 04:41 AM |#18  
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I am honestly shocked by some of the replies I'm seeing. For ALL of the complaints I've seen on this forum (faulty GPS, problems with CDMA carriers, lack of OTA support after nearly a year, etc.), seeing you guys blindly justify the successor just... it boggles my mind. I would be more understanding if the price point for the E4 was the same as the G4P ($150). At least that would make sense from a marketing standpoint. But for them to slash the price to below the G4P, as if to imply that they're phasing out the G4P entirely, just screams that they have no intention of supporting it further. I think that's BS.

Yes, the media is claiming that June will have the drop date for 7.1.1. That's still far from definitive, and there's no guarantee Lenovo won't pull the same thing with Android 8.0 down the road. They just aren't that trustworthy. All I'm going to say is if I hadn't rooted mine, I could think of few equal/better phones for the price (Samsung Galaxy J3, ZTE ZMax 2, LG X Style).

Lenovo does not have a solid strategy with the Moto line. Until they admit to that fact, I'm not going to put my trust in them. It's your call whether you choose to do otherwise.

Not certain I follow this post. I purchased the G4P for three reasons: form factor (size), modest price point and ability to easily unlock the bootloader. OTA to stock Android 7.x (if it happens) is nice but not an entitlement on a budget handset. Zero expectation of going to Android 8. I have no problem with a nearly identical variant being rebranded and sold at a lower price as newer models are introduced. Common practice w/consumer electronics (consider your television, personal computer, etc). Trust? LOL!!

So what would you have Leveno do?
22nd June 2017, 05:42 PM |#19  
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I am honestly shocked by some of the replies I'm seeing. For ALL of the complaints I've seen on this forum (faulty GPS, problems with CDMA carriers, lack of OTA support after nearly a year, etc.), seeing you guys blindly justify the successor just... it boggles my mind. I would be more understanding if the price point for the E4 was the same as the G4P ($150). At least that would make sense from a marketing standpoint. But for them to slash the price to below the G4P, as if to imply that they're phasing out the G4P entirely, just screams that they have no intention of supporting it further. I think that's BS.

Yes, the media is claiming that June will have the drop date for 7.1.1. That's still far from definitive, and there's no guarantee Lenovo won't pull the same thing with Android 8.0 down the road. They just aren't that trustworthy. All I'm going to say is if I hadn't rooted mine, I could think of few equal/better phones for the price (Samsung Galaxy J3, ZTE ZMax 2, LG X Style).

Lenovo does not have a solid strategy with the Moto line. Until they admit to that fact, I'm not going to put my trust in them. It's your call whether you choose to do otherwise.

That last paragraph I agree with you on. But everything else sounds like too much assumption and too little research. Although I didn't see the G4 play listed on Lenovo's support page, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to support a device released in 2016.

I am very disappointed in their strategy with phones. I bought the G5 Plus because of its fantastic specs for $260 (price matched @ BB with Amazon). I wish they introduced a G5 play, but considering the strange (re)introduction of numerous Moto lines (E, X, and introduction of C) I can see why. But they're really confused. I really wish Google kept Motorola.. we'd have 7.1 already and 8.0 ASAP. A real shame that a great American brand got bought up by some Chinese PC manufacturers that should've refrained​ from entering the mobile arena on the first place.
23rd June 2017, 05:17 AM |#20  
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I tried, and I found nothing, so I asked here. Next time, when you don't know something, don't hide yourself behind sarcasm, it's a waste of such a good rhetorical device.


Sd410 gives you around 28000 on antutu and sd425 around 35000.
23rd June 2017, 07:18 AM |#21  
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So as of this morning, Lenovo officially listed the Moto E4 and E4 Plus on their site. Here's the E4 specs:

-Almost the same as G4 Play
-Snapdragon 425 or 427
-NanoSIM
-Added e-compass (which SHOULD have been on the G4 Play, seriously)
-Fingerprint Scanner in select markets
-Nougat out of the box

And all for $20 cheaper than what most of us paid. Anyone else as pissed as I am?

Not me got mine at Open Mobile PR Moto G4 Play Factory Unlock XT1607 Bootloader unlockable. Just for $84 without contract, ditched the Open Mobile PR SIM (CDMA no Real LTE) and got an off contract T-Mobile sim now have LTE. Tested with AT&T, & Claro PR and other GSM SIM cards from family all of them works fine. Win win.
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