Linux on DeX abandoned. I'm out.

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Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.

Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.

I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.

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coilbio

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It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.

It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..
 
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It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.

It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..


Nope, it is not a phone. It is a full arm computer on phone form. Very powerful too. Buy the 12GB version and you are faster than most laptops out there.

Discontinuing LoD means Samsung is non serious for anything really...
 
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Yes it's a phone... that they want it to do more than what it honestly needs to do. That's why it's called a "smart"PHONE.

LoD maybe like 50K people use it at most 2 of the main sources total downloads on the play store barely broke 5K, and APK mirror had roughly 36K downloads. Hardly game breaking and honestly isn't worth the effort to keep working on it. That's barely even 5% of sale of devices that supported it. Probably cost more to maintain that the profit it produces. IF you want to keep using it well don't upgrade your device. No other OEM offered it so you are stuck up a creek without a paddle so to speak. Maybe it 20-30% of sales they may have kept it. Maybe you can get a petition going like some people are doing and see if Samsung change their mind.

Most 1200 laptops are faster than the Note 10+ my 2013 laptop costs me 1200 brand new and I know for a fact it still would walk circles around the Note 10+. The Note 10+ probably has the same power as a $500 laptop currently at best imho.
 
Yes it's a phone... that they want it to do more than what it honestly needs to do. That's why it's called a "smart"PHONE.

LoD maybe like 50K people use it at most 2 of the main sources total downloads on the play store barely broke 5K, and APK mirror had roughly 36K downloads. Hardly game breaking and honestly isn't worth the effort to keep working on it. That's barely even 5% of sale of devices that supported it. Probably cost more to maintain that the profit it produces. IF you want to keep using it well don't upgrade your device. No other OEM offered it so you are stuck up a creek without a paddle so to speak. Maybe it 20-30% of sales they may have kept it. Maybe you can get a petition going like some people are doing and see if Samsung change their mind.

Most 1200 laptops are faster than the Note 10+ my 2013 laptop costs me 1200 brand new and I know for a fact it still would walk circles around the Note 10+. The Note 10+ probably has the same power as a $500 laptop currently at best imho.
can't even download since they removed it so it will never exceed expectation if there is any to begin with

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can't even download since they removed it so it will never exceed expectation if there is any to begin with
We are talking not even 1% in 2 years. Essential sold more phones than that in 6 months. Makes sense why Samsung would drop it especially when people scream about how slow Samsung is with updating.

Yes I am one of those downloads, but I don't use it as much as I thought I would. I ended up not installing on my Note 10+ , and uninstalled it on my S10+.
 
We are talking not even 1% in 2 years. Essential sold more phones than that in 6 months. Makes sense why Samsung would drop it especially when people scream about how slow Samsung is with updating.

Yes I am one of those downloads, but I don't use it as much as I thought I would. I ended up not installing on my Note 10+ , and uninstalled it on my S10+.
i couldn't even install it in note 10. officially, you couldn't even find it in play store

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i couldn't even install it in note 10. officially, you couldn't even find it in play store
As I said APK mirror shows 36K downloads and all one needs to do it look at the cached website(which a few publications did) and saw 5K"ish" downloads. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you what I read and saw. If since 2 years ago Samsung sold millions of S9, Note8, Note9, and S10 devices and only 40K worth of downloads what would you do from a business unbiased standpoint? You would drop it right? I know I would because it's hardly a blip of sales being affected. It's pocket change compared to what they would pay for a development team to maintain it.
 
As I said APK mirror shows 36K downloads and all one needs to do it look at the cached website(which a few publications did) and saw 5K"ish" downloads. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you what I read and saw. If since 2 years ago Samsung sold millions of S9, Note8, Note9, and S10 devices and only 40K worth of downloads what would you do from a business unbiased standpoint? You would drop it right? I know I would because it's hardly a blip of sales being affected. It's pocket change compared to what they would pay for a development team to maintain it.
it's not even published officially, just basing on the download counts on apkmirror doesn't mean anything. it's like saying the number of downloads for the phone apk at apkmirror tells us it is unpopular so we should ditch it.

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it's not even published officially, just basing on the download counts on apkmirror doesn't mean anything. it's like saying the number of downloads for the phone apk at apkmirror tells us it is unpopular so we should ditch it.
Do you think Samsung would drop it if it was not widely adopted? I see in this thread alone 2 people trying get Samsung to keep it. We See Pixel owners petitioning Google to bring back a feature they took out the pixel 4 and countless threads all over the place. It was a niche and barely anyone used. Be real with yourself.
 

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To be buying a $1000+ phone and not have a desktop, and complain about a niche VR setup..
Priorities are way off here.

I get the anger over Samsung dropping a "feature",
So don't update if it's worth it to you.
 
Do you think Samsung would drop it if it was not widely adopted? I see in this thread alone 2 people trying get Samsung to keep it. We See Pixel owners petitioning Google to bring back a feature they took out the pixel 4 and countless threads all over the place. It was a niche and barely anyone used. Be real with yourself.
niche or not is not an adjective where you describe it it becomes a part of reality. there is a difference between being realistic and practical. the stats on the number of people using dex and linux on dex should be similar. the only reason for this would be the people who would use dex are people who would be savvy and would know about linux on dex.


before you go on expecting me to provide some background on the stats, perhaps we should be doing the same before jumping to conclusion what is niche, what is realistic and what is practical. personal viewpoint do not make the cut here. removal of a feature is a fact.

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To be buying a $1000+ phone and not have a desktop, and complain about a niche VR setup..
Priorities are way off here.

I get the anger over Samsung dropping a "feature",
So don't update if it's worth it to you.
vr is niche probably because it isn't as widely accepted as a necessity.

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It was never a feature to begin with... Show me where Samsung said the Note 10 would have said feature? Never did and like you say it was never a public release so you are contradicting your previous comments. So what is it a feature removal or a product that was never officially released? There is a difference between the two.
 
It was never a feature to begin with... Show me where Samsung said the Note 10 would have said feature? Never did and like you say it was never a public release so you are contradicting your previous comments. So what is it a feature removal or a product that was never officially released? There is a difference between the two.
how is unofficial feature not a feature.

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how is unofficial feature not a feature.
When has Samsung said it would be available to the Note 10? It was in beta and had the disclaimer it may be dropped or may be rolled out as an official feature. You can't call it a feature if it was never an official product released.

There's other alternatives you can do and a lot of media outlets showcased them. Maybe you can try those?
 

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Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.

Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.

I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.

Assholes!
Dude you were in the minority and that is why they killed it. It wasn't cost effective. The development of the product was greater than the sales. They all do it, it's business. Look at Google and how many apps they've killed or Microsoft or Apple. If that is the thing that will be a dealbreaker for you, I might suggest you avoid tech all together because eventually, all tech dies.
 
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When has Samsung said it would be available to the Note 10? It was in beta and had the disclaimer it may be dropped or may be rolled out as an official feature. You can't call it a feature if it was never an official product released.

There's other alternatives you can do and a lot of media outlets showcased them. Maybe you can try those?

Sure it was beta and all. **** move not to roll out one app release with 2 strings so that the LoD app can run on the Note 10/10+ (which have higher RAM configs available that the S10 line - good luck finding a 12GB version of the S10+). There's no alternatives to LoD. UserLAnd comes close, but it's nowhere as stable or fast because of the way it runs. No way to get a proper desktop browser - sans remoting to a VM somewhere. And all the other implications. Sure the userbase for this is (was) niche, but still.
 

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    Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.

    Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.

    I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.

    Assholes!
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    It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.

    It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..
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    It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.

    It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..


    Nope, it is not a phone. It is a full arm computer on phone form. Very powerful too. Buy the 12GB version and you are faster than most laptops out there.

    Discontinuing LoD means Samsung is non serious for anything really...
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    Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.

    Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.

    I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.

    Assholes!
    Dude you were in the minority and that is why they killed it. It wasn't cost effective. The development of the product was greater than the sales. They all do it, it's business. Look at Google and how many apps they've killed or Microsoft or Apple. If that is the thing that will be a dealbreaker for you, I might suggest you avoid tech all together because eventually, all tech dies.
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    You don't get it. You spin and twist everything. This post was about Linux on Dex and I have merely said all companies remove things based on cost analysis and demand. There is not enough demand for Linux, so there is no need for Samsung to keep developing it. Later troll.