uConnect 6.5 (Alfa / Fiat) Root Access

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spoondani

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for software version 17.35.41 there is a solution to update maps ? (naviserver9.10.32.697995) ?
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RefLeks

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You need to use the fiat and jeep pre UPD file. Make a backup and I will be uploading a convert from US to EU pack soon!

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I just can't. I've tried many times.
- first unzip .zip from swdl.iso, directly on usb, then unpack the script.lus + backup folder. When I plug into the car and see "authentication failed" and the usb stops working.
I thought I might have something damaged but the update from the Uconn... web works: RA3_15_43_0_NAFTA_MY14_MY16_330_BF
 

SquithyX

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I just can't. I've tried many times.
- first unzip .zip from swdl.iso, directly on usb, then unpack the script.lus + backup folder. When I plug into the car and see "authentication failed" and the usb stops working.
I thought I might have something damaged but the update from the Uconn... web works: RA3_15_43_0_NAFTA_MY14_MY16_330_BF

Would you be able to share that update image for me to have a look at, and hopefully modify it for you?
 

RefLeks

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@RefLeks

Check the drive, there is a modified version of your file on the drive. Download "1 Magic - Fiat pre UPD.zip" and please feedback.

Wow, You are a genius! Good job :)
I connected usb and the usb is working. To backup I use "2 BACKUP -NA or ROW to EU Convert" correctly?I made a backup, it takes about 2.9 gb, nothing has changed in uconnect. Should I go to stage 2- maps ? I will have Polish menu and EU radio frequency when stage 2 ends? Should I put the entire backup on network disk? Maybe you will want to see something from this data?
For Polish maps I must used all EU? "A EU Update 2017 HMEU2015Q4.zip"?
 

SquithyX

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Wow, You are a genius! Good job :)
I connected usb and the usb is working. To backup I use "2 BACKUP -NA or ROW to EU Convert" correctly?I made a backup, it takes about 2.9 gb, nothing has changed in uconnect. Should I go to stage 2- maps ? I will have Polish menu and EU radio frequency when stage 2 ends? Should I put the entire backup on network disk? Maybe you will want to see something from this data?
For Polish maps I must used all EU? "A EU Update 2017 HMEU2015Q4.zip"?

NO, not yet!!!!!

Send me the files in fs and fram so i can check and convert them for you.

It sound a bit small at only 2.9Gb - would you consider uploading the full back up for me to look at / store on the drive as a recovery for all if it is correct.
 

SquithyX

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Sorry, yea No speedcams yet.... Not sure why the ones included don't work and my updated ones have problems with licenses. I am working on it!

I feel its better to have current maps and no speedcams instead of Maps and speedcam warnings from 2012.

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saggiogufo

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Sorry, yea No speedcams yet.... Not sure why the ones included don't work and my updated ones have problems with licenses. I am working on it!

I feel its better to have current maps and no speedcams instead of Maps and speedcam warnings from 2012.

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I totally agree. It would be good but not a priority. And what about TMC ? Any chance to see it working in Italy?
 

SquithyX

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As far as I was aware TMC was working for Europe. If it is not, then I will have a look into it for you! I have quite a few TMC and license files from getting the UK service to work.

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Valentino83

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I totally agree. It would be good but not a priority. And what about TMC ? Any chance to see it working in Italy?

Sorry, yea No speedcams yet.... Not sure why the ones included don't work and my updated ones have problems with licenses. I am working on it!

I feel its better to have current maps and no speedcams instead of Maps and speedcam warnings from 2012.

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I had not seen the reference to the camera in the first post. I also believe that it is not a priority.
 

SquithyX

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Could I get some feedback about the TMC. As far as I was aware the TMC system worked in most of Europe as it is provided for as a free service. It never worked in the UK as the TMC service in the UK is a paid service and FCA did not buy a license for it.
If this is this not the case, please let me know. I have many TMC files from getting UK to work, and can start trying to get Italy and rest of Europe to work - though will need your help to test!
 

sofro1988

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Could I get some feedback about the TMC. As far as I was aware the TMC system worked in most of Europe as it is provided for as a free service. It never worked in the UK as the TMC service in the UK is a paid service and FCA did not buy a license for it.
If this is this not the case, please let me know. I have many TMC files from getting UK to work, and can start trying to get Italy and rest of Europe to work - though will need your help to test!

listen me. tmc in italy is divide by 2 company. the free one, where there is no need of anything and the paid one, where you need to put the license file into TMC folder and activating it by alfaobd the feature "TMC Pro".
here attached some tic license if you wanna try.
 
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SquithyX

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listen me. tmc in italy is divide by 2 company. the free one, where there is no need of anything and the paid one, where you need to put the license file into TMC folder and activating it by alfaobd the feature "TMC Pro".
here attached some tic license if you wanna try.

Ok, so does the uConnect use the free one in Italy currently?
I will look at the TMC files you have sent - it looks very similar to a pack i already have but without the license files lol.
Not sure if it will need to be activated through AlfaOBD as, TMC is accessed from NaviServer2 that has been modified.
 

sofro1988

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Ok, so does the uConnect use the free one in Italy currently?
I will look at the TMC files you have sent - it looks very similar to a pack i already have but without the license files lol.
Not sure if it will need to be activated through AlfaOBD as, TMC is accessed from NaviServer2 that has been modified.

yes, and it works very bad. Giulietta my10 with radionav has the license to use TMC Premium, much better. I'm not sure about naviserve2r ready for TMC PRO without alfaOBD. about the pack, it's a few years old, but I think it does not matter as even old navigator car decrypt tmc signal.
 

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    I just applied it in my car :
    Put the magic iso at the root
    Copy only the full folder you point with the arrow at the root (not the mac)

    It looks to me 50mins around... No proposal of updates
    Hint : Wait a few minutes after the led stop blinking before to apply the procedure of reboot remove USB key , turn ignition OFF then Open and Close the Driver’s door. Make sure to leave ignition off, do not press the brake, and do not reopen any doors, and wait 60 seconds.
    Turn ignition back ON then OFF, Open and Close the Driver’s door and wait 60 seconds.
    You can now exit the vehicle, process is complete.
    Quick update. It worked however, had to try it twice. I did the update while I had to travel for a couple of hours. 1st time message no key availablie. After that put the stick in the car again, drove off. When it was stopped blinking, stopped at a gasstaion. Then ignition off, out the car, took the stick out, filled my tank with gas, locked the car, when inside to pay, back in the car and VOILA, it worked :)
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    I thought i would start this thread, separate to the Jeep one as the Jeep thread is for the 8.4" uConnect and uses some different files to the 6.5" version.

    The aim of the thread is to be able to gain some sort of 'root' access to the file system to be able to update the maps on the system. So far I know cm0002 and Leighm0 have done some great work with the 8.4" - Most of which we can use on the 6.5".....once we have access to the file system.

    The problem we seem to be facing is finding a swdl.iso that is old enough to be modified for our 6.5" units.


    Mission Accomplished.... mostly


    Disclaimer: I can not be held responsible for any damages to your uConnect, Car or your hair falling out from running this modification.
    That being said, if you do have a problem please contact me and I will see if I can help you fix it.


    For all those people still on v17.07.46 or older uConnect 6.5 firmware I offer you a “jailbreak”, you can now update your maps to the latest versions (currently offering EU 2018Q3 / NA 2018Q1 in my pack). I have to warn you though, the process can take a lot of time!


    For those of you who have updated your 6.5 uConnect to v17.35.41 or v18, I am still working on how to update those, FCA / Alfa changed the locks with that update!


    For a Full EU / NA update, if you follow my instructions fully, it will take approx. 4hours during which time your uConnect must remain powered on. This time can be greatly reduced by only updating the country or countries you need, or if you are feeling brave, skipping Step 1.


    Files / Items needed:
    uConnect 6.5 running v17 or older firmware -Supporting Alfa, Fiat and Jeeps too!
    At least 8gb USB Drive ***preferably with a flashing led light so you can see file access***
    Files from
    https://mega.nz/#F!kURhTCbJ!uJhKPMyGiESbvQSDb33CvQ


    Stage 1 – Backup your files

    Download:
    1 Magic -Alfa pre UPD.zip -For Alfa
    1 Magic -Fiat & Jeep pre UPD.zip -For Fiat / Jeep
    2 Backup.zip


    Process:
    1. Download and expand “1 Magic -XXX.zip” and “2 Backup.zip”
    2. Copy the content onto the root of the USB drive
    3. Start car and let uConnect boot up (wait approx 5min for full boot up)
    4. Plug in and WAIT, the uConnect will not appear to be doing anything but if you are using a USB with a light you should be able to see it flashing with file activity
    5. After some time, in my case it took 1h25 to complete this stage, it should popup a window about there is a update that you MUST answer NO to
    6. Pull USB, and power cycle the uConnect*


    After that you now have a backup of all the system and map files we are going to change on your uConnect.


    KEEP THEM SAFE!


    Either use a second USB for stage 2, save the backup folder to your computer or if your like me and use a 16gb USB stick you can leave it where it is.


    I have now uploaded copies of the official EU Map Packs from (A) 2013, 2015 and 2017, NA Map Packs (B) 2013, and ROW Map Packs (C) WIP that will function as a backup or official upgrade for anybody needing them, restoring your uConnect back to stock.


    ***If you have a newer set of Original Map files please contact me, and I can add them to the drive for all to benefit from***


    Stage 2 – Modify your uConnect


    Download:
    1 Magic.zip --You should already have this if you completed Stage 1
    D EU Custom 2018 HNEU2018Q3v2.zip --Full EU
    E NA Custom 2018 HNNA2018Q1.zip --Full North America
    Or
    D UK Custom 2018 HNUK2018Q3.zip --UK Only
    D FR Custom 2018 HNFR2018Q3.zip --France Only
    D DE Custom 2018 HNDE2018Q3.zip --Germany Only
    D IT Custom 2018 HNIT2018Q3.zip --Italy Only
    ***There will be other country / State only update packs soon***
    Or
    A EU 2013 Original NQEU2012Q4.zip --Stock 2013 Maps, Original EU Release
    A EU Update 2017 HMEU2015Q4.zip --Newest Original Map files released 2017
    B NA 2013 Original NQNA2013Q4.zip --Stock 2013 Maps, Original NA Release


    Process:
    1. Download and expand “1 Magic.zip” and “D XX Custom 2018 HN….zip”
    2. Copy the content onto the root of the USB drive
    3. Start car and let uConnect boot up (wait approx. 5min for full boot up)
    4. Plug in and WAIT, the uConnect will not appear to be doing anything but if you are using a USB with a light you should be able to see it flashing with file activity
    5. After some time, depending on file used - If country / State only pack approx. 15min if full EU then approx. 2h, it should popup a window about there is a update that you MUST answer NO
    6. Pull USB, and power cycle the uConnect*


    If all gone well you will now have a uConnect 6.5 with updated maps!


    As I am sure you can understand, there are still some little bugs to work out;

    Problems:
    UK postcodes > Only 5 digit search
    Speedcams > Not working at all
    Anything else… you tell me


    Fixed:
    UK TMC now working
    France TMC working again
    Italy TMC (paid version) working

    There may be other little problems, but I am unable to test them, please let me know and I will look into them and try to fix!






    *To Power cycle:
    Either remove key, lock car, wait 10min, unlock and restart)
    Or use engineers menu to reset the uConnect (Press Radio, More and Browse until menu pops up, scroll down to Reset Radio, answer YES)
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    I have uploaded some of the files, more to come.
    The URL:

    https://mega.nz/#F!kMYjlSKB!MCC6U1jclb0_aHc-NdocrA

    If you have anything else to share please message me.
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    There is now 2019v2 map pack on the share for anybody who wants it.
    The map files are from May 2019 (2018Q4)
    Merry Christmas to you all
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    So close, but broken lol

    Success......kind of, I have managed to modify a swdl.iso to enable loading of different / modified files, on my Alfa 6.5 uConnect running 17.07.55.

    The problem now is I seem to have completely broken navigation!!!!!!

    I used the idea from post #216 in the Rooted Jeep Cherokee thread and modified the manifest.lua file in the swdl.iso (17.07.55) to load a script from usb before running the update.

    Process goes power on uConnect > wait for it to boot up and display "Hands free ...." > insert USB and wait...it seems like its not doing anything but the script is running in the background > after some time the do you want to update question and answer No.
    The fact that is has asked if you want to update is confirmation that the script has finished, however unfortunately there is no indication that the script is being run or how long it will take unless you have a usb with a flashing light, then it will show you something is happening at least! **my usb does not have a flashing light
    I tested it with a splash screen update.... that worked perfectly, so no more boring Alfa Romeo logo on silver background for me at start up, I then pushed the modified NaviServer2, nav.sh and navRestart.sh files and rebooted.... new splash screen working perfectly but on pressing Nav button I just end up on a screen saying "Activating Navigation"

    I am in the process of uploading the modified files to the mega share if anybody whats to have a look or are feeling brave
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    did you modify the swdl.iso? or just the script.lua?

    I have used a modified 17.07.55 swdl.iso with a script.lua - if you download the test above it contains some of the modified files. The rest are currently being uploaded / are already available online.

    I have done a very quick video of progress with the uConnect here:

    https://youtu.be/ed0O-xXNHdg