Thanks Brian
Just saw this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lgv20-vs995-verizon-aio-post-06-19-2017-t3624326
Looks like you use the uppercut tool and the KDZ 13A, then you can use dirty santa to root
I appreciate the response, I am coming from a 2 year old Moto X Pure....