You just learned something, and that's great. Noob is not a state of mind, or some level in a D&D game, but rather a brief moment in the psyche of somone else's twisted reality.
Got it to work finally java said it was up to date but guess it wasn't. Thank for your guys help.
Also, are you running the files the right way? I think it is post #107 that is the cherry of all the posts. I had trouble myself, and then one night on my lap top on my bed while my wife was trying to persuade me to look away from it .. boom .. v...