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Will Moto X4 get project Treble support whenever it gets Android Oreo?

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By hpgramani, Member on 7th December 2017, 05:56 AM
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Moto hasn't enabled treble in Indian Moto X4 (XT1900-2)

Many OEM like Nokia, OnePlus etc are disabling Project Treble on their devices in Oreo updating stating that Treble requires re-partitioning of internal storage which if done via OTA has a high probability of bricking the phone.
https://m.gsmarena.com/current_nokia...news-28590.php

https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_exp...news-28616.php

So will Moto X4 get Treble in Oreo Update? I'm afraid it might not get it.
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7th December 2017, 10:28 AM |#2  
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Is Project Treble linked with the A/B Partitions ? If yes, we have already these partitions on our Moto X4 (non Android One Version) so I hope it will be compatible...
7th December 2017, 11:36 AM |#3  
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Is Project Treble linked with the A/B Partitions ? If yes, we have already these partitions on our Moto X4 (non Android One Version) so I hope it will be compatible...

Nobody knows for sure yet. We'll have to wait and see when Oreo drops.
8th December 2017, 12:03 AM |#4  
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x4 was launched quite a bit after oreo was already officially released, and it's a mid-end phone by Motorola (they even give moto g4 oreo update, even though it's because they feel pressured due to previous mistaken promise, they still said they 'll go through with it...) .

It could definitely increase sales of the moto x4 and make it more able to compete with devices that will be released on Oreo in the next months coming. It would mean that customers will get updates as frequently as other devices released on Oreo,

Moto x4 retail version is released with A/B partitions just like Pixel 2XL. Seems like A/B partitioning is essential for Treble, which devices like 1+5 lack indeed.

So these are 5 factors which could contribute to treble being activated when Oreo comes to the x4 but treble could just as likely not be on it...

There are phones that got released way before the x4 that did pull it off, so it's possible.
8th December 2017, 05:21 AM |#5  
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Originally Posted by hpgramani

Many OEM like Nokia, OnePlus etc are disabling Project Treble on their devices in Oreo updating stating that Treble requires re-partitioning of internal storage which if done via OTA has a high probability of bricking the phone.
https://m.gsmarena.com/current_nokia...news-28590.php

https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_exp...news-28616.php

So will Moto X4 get Treble in Oreo Update? I'm afraid it might not get it.

I think motoX4 will get Treble update as having somewhat above average knowledge in smartphones, I noticed that i'm getting 44gb of space left in my 64gb variant. and moto having almost stock android without tones of blootwares. I think i should get somewhat 50-52 gb of onboard storage. And as Project Treble needs another partition may be that's where the extra space went.

Its all just my way of connecting dots and looking at the big picture. I hope i'm not wrong and u guys will agree
21st December 2017, 12:17 AM |#6  
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Off topic but has anyone seen any news about the oreo update for Moto devices? I'm seeing on the tech blogs that other devices receiving betas. Helk,the HTC u life on T-Mobile is actually receiving oreo right now. I saw somewhere that Moto said promised oreo by the end of the year and no word.

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21st December 2017, 12:12 PM |#7  
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I think motoX4 will get Treble update as having somewhat above average knowledge in smartphones, I noticed that i'm getting 44gb of space left in my 64gb variant. and moto having almost stock android without tones of blootwares. I think i should get somewhat 50-52 gb of onboard storage. And as Project Treble needs another partition may be that's where the extra space went.

Its all just my way of connecting dots and looking at the big picture. I hope i'm not wrong and u guys will agree

our nougat has A/B partitions already, they have nothing to do with treble... that's where all the space went. z2 is not getting it, and we probably are neither..... as someone with above average knowledge, yours is pretty lacking
21st December 2017, 12:31 PM |#8  
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our nougat has A/B partitions already, they have nothing to do with treble... that's where all the space went. z2 is not getting it, and we probably are neither..... as someone with above average knowledge, yours is pretty lacking

We will get treble feature .... Apart from that there is no reason to give a/b partition. As it was also rumored in early 2017 for motox4. Anyways let's wait n hope for the best
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We will get treble feature .... Apart from that there is no reason to give a/b partition. As it was also rumored in early 2017 for motox4. Anyways let's wait n hope for the best

That's not true at all. The reason for A/B partitions is to allow for seamless background updates, nothing to do with Treble. They were implemented on Pixel 1s before Oreo and Treble even existed.

Moto is under zero obligation to implement Treble on the X4... Unless Google really asks them to as part of the Android One program. Which is possible. I'd say it's 50/50 if we get it.
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22nd December 2017, 10:59 PM |#10  
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That's not true at all. The reason for A/B partitions is to allow for seamless background updates, nothing to do with Treble. They were implemented on Pixel 1s before Oreo and Treble even existed.

Moto is under zero obligation to implement Treble on the X4... Unless Google really asks them to as part of the Android One program. Which is possible. I'd say it's 50/50 if we get it.

the question is, whether google will treat a1 devices like pixels in this regard
23rd December 2017, 03:51 AM |#11  
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Off topic but has anyone seen any news about the oreo update for Moto devices? I'm seeing on the tech blogs that other devices receiving betas. Helk,the HTC u life on T-Mobile is actually receiving oreo right now. I saw somewhere that Moto said promised oreo by the end of the year and no word.

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The Android one edition starts recieving Oreo.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...pdate_id101000

So those who have Android one edition can check whether project treble is enabled or not
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