[RUMOR] X10 might get ICS officially!

aR_ChRiS · Nov 17, 2011

maddes1402 said:
Yes, I know. It is not the first time you explained hardware acceleration very well .
But I guess besides the camera the activation of hardware aceleration it is the hardest part for a proper working ICS ROM.
After some less days it was able to run ICS on a Nexus One based on the SDK. But it wasn´t possible that the GPU accelerate the system. But we´ll see what is possible right now after the sources are released.

So GPU acceleration is optional?

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Frosty666 · Nov 17, 2011

aR_ChRiS said:
So GPU acceleration is optional?

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That wouldn't be a good move by Google. I could see manufacturers skimping out on hardware acceleration if it wasn't enforced.

maddes1402 · Nov 17, 2011

aR_ChRiS said:
So GPU acceleration is optional?

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No, it isn't. But I guess for custom roms it won't be so easy to activate it.

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Amin` · Nov 17, 2011

Guys! I recall that many times ago I was thinking that x10 mini's hardware cant run gingerbread... but now I see that it runs 2.3.7 very well...

so don't post anything like x10's gpu can't run ics...because I saw it runs heavy HD games like backstab so good...so don't think x10's gpu is very poor

The Gingerbread Man · Nov 17, 2011

Amin` said:
Guys! I recall that many times ago I was thinking that x10 mini's hardware cant run gingerbread... but now I see that it runs 2.3.7 very well...

so don't post anything like x10's gpu can't run ics...because I saw it runs heavy HD games like backstab so good...so don't think x10's gpu is very poor

But as I saw somebody post yesterday, can't remember who, I think he was a Japanese dev tsuyo.kou, one of the biggest problems is going to be with the kernal. We have 2.6.29 modded by SE to include teethering and such like, 2.6.29 is very old, they are having problems in just making 2.6.32 and only just been able to get it to boot and nothing else. Ics is based on 3.xx kernals, think about that. If somebody does port it over it will take a very long time and that's if they can even get it to work. I don't mean to sound unoptimistic or piss on anybody parade but if you desparetly want ics upgrade your device (like me) and pray fxp and team can get it to work. I have good faith in the team, they are masters at what they do but there is only so far you can take an old device with old hardware etc etc There is much much more to this than just CPU and gpu but other much more tricky things like as I mentioned kernals but also screen Res as ics is designed to work with 1280 x 720, perhaps that's easier to sort I don't know. Put it this way, it wouldn't suprise me if by the time the fxp team get it ported and running there will be newer Os and another Gen of devices and you lot will scream for more. I'm not taking credit from fxp and team, this is just being realistic. I think really this thread should be closed *cue mod intervention*

Follow developemt for android 4.0 here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1309911

tsuyo.kou said:
Kernel porting for X10 has very big problems.

I have been porting semc kernel 2.6.32 to X10 and almost done(enable booting) without KGSL(hw acceleration) and camera driver.

I'm now starting a PJ to port kernel 3.0 to X10.

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tsuyo.kou · Nov 17, 2011

My ported kernel 2.6.32-9 works very slow because KGSL driver(hw acceleration) can't work.

I'm a beginner about kernel porting.
So it only might be difficult to solve it.

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scoobysnacks · Nov 17, 2011

Amin` said:
Guys! I recall that many times ago I was thinking that x10 mini's hardware cant run gingerbread... but now I see that it runs 2.3.7 very well...

so don't post anything like x10's gpu can't run ics...because I saw it runs heavy HD games like backstab so good...so don't think x10's gpu is very poor

backstab is laggy as sh!t on x10.....

The gpu is pretty poor, you can try to deny it all you want, but it is outdated.

The Gingerbread Man · Nov 17, 2011

tsuyo.kou said:
My ported kernel 2.6.32-9 works very slow because KGSL driver(hw acceleration) can't work.

I'm a beginner about kernel porting.
So it only might be difficult to solve it.

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Your doing a great job I'm sure, far more than I could ever dream of trying, I give you credit from taking on such a challenge and wish you the very best of luck! Like I said I'm not trying to step on peoples toes here just trying to keep it realistic for us non developers

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anakinlam95 · Nov 17, 2011

tsuyo.kou said:
My ported kernel 2.6.32-9 works very slow because KGSL driver(hw acceleration) can't work.

I'm a beginner about kernel porting.
So it only might be difficult to solve it.

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could u post 2.6.32 kernel on the dev page
i would like to try
i really appreciate ur hard work

maddes1402 · Nov 17, 2011

tsuyo.kou said:
My ported kernel 2.6.32-9 works very slow because KGSL driver(hw acceleration) can't work.

I'm a beginner about kernel porting.
So it only might be difficult to solve it.

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Awesome work, mate!

But wouldn´t it be a good idea to work together with some of the other developers like DooMloRD, and Co.? Perhaps this leads faster to a success.

scoobysnacks · Nov 17, 2011

The Gingerbread Man said:
But as I saw somebody post yesterday, can't remember who, I think he was a Japanese dev tsuyo.kou, one of the biggest problems is going to be with the kernal. We have 2.6.29 modded by SE to include teethering and such like, 2.6.29 is very old, they are having problems in just making 2.6.32 and only just been able to get it to boot and nothing else. Ics is based on 3.xx kernals, think about that. If somebody does port it over it will take a very long time and that's if they can even get it to work. I don't mean to sound unoptimistic or piss on anybody parade but if you desparetly want ics upgrade your device (like me) and pray fxp and team can get it to work. I have good faith in the team, they are masters at what they do but there is only so far you can take an old device with old hardware etc etc There is much much more to this than just CPU and gpu but other much more tricky things like as I mentioned kernals but also screen Res as ics is designed to work with 1280 x 720, perhaps that's easier to sort I don't know. Put it this way, it wouldn't suprise me if by the time the fxp team get it ported and running there will be newer Os and another Gen of devices and you lot will scream for more. I'm not taking credit from fxp and team, this is just being realistic. I think really this thread should be closed *cue mod intervention*

Follow developemt for android 4.0 here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1309911

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p.s.- ics isn't designed to work at a certain screen res :S

It will be running at all kinds of different resolutions, that's part of the whole point of it

The Gingerbread Man · Nov 17, 2011

scoobysnacks said:
p.s.- ics isn't designed to work at a certain screen res :S

It will be running at all kinds of different resolutions, that's part of the whole point of it

Your right there, I was getting kind of carried away there. Obviously an update to ics isn't suddenly going to make your phone have HD resolution, unless of course your name is tripnraver

I was watching some video all about the nexus, this presentation thing by Google bosses and Samsung boss bloke and it said it was designed to run at HD resolution not exclusively at HD. Meh

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scoobysnacks · Nov 17, 2011

The Gingerbread Man said:
Your right there, I was getting kind of carried away there. Obviously an update to ics isn't suddenly going to make your phone have HD resolution, unless of course your name is tripnraver I was watching some video all about the nexus, this presentation thing by Google bosses and Samsung boss bloke and it said it was designed to run at HD resolution not exclusively at HD. Meh

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Tripnraver to the rescue

Amin` · Nov 17, 2011

Guys!

Can anyone try to ask J that what's his plan and how much we can hope for fxp team?!

thanks!

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But as I saw somebody post yesterday, can't remember who, I think he was a Japanese dev tsuyo.kou, one of the biggest problems is going to be with the kernal. We have 2.6.29 modded by SE to include teethering and such like, 2.6.29 is very old, they are having problems in just making 2.6.32 and only just been able to get it to boot and nothing else. Ics is based on 3.xx kernals, think about that. If somebody does port it over it will take a very long time and that's if they can even get it to work. I don't mean to sound unoptimistic or piss on anybody parade but if you desparetly want ics upgrade your device (like me) and pray fxp and team can get it to work. I have good faith in the team, they are masters at what they do but there is only so far you can take an old device with old hardware etc etc There is much much more to this than just CPU and gpu but other much more tricky things like as I mentioned kernals but also screen Res as ics is designed to work with 1280 x 720, perhaps that's easier to sort I don't know. Put it this way, it wouldn't suprise me if by the time the fxp team get it ported and running there will be newer Os and another Gen of devices and you lot will scream for more. I'm not taking credit from fxp and team, this is just being realistic. I think really this thread should be closed *cue mod intervention*

you say everytime: update your phones but there is no much time I had bought a X10 and I cant buy a device every 3 month...I choose android because everybody says android is open source and android for all of people...if I knew this is android that i must upgrade my phone every3month I never did think about android...so I could choose BADA....

by the way if anyone are going to leave x10 ,dont mind...I will release all the 4,5,6kernels and ics to my x10 by myself alone , because I love x10! and plz dont think guys I am TripNRaver!

riginal · Nov 17, 2011

Amin` said:
Guys!

Can anyone try to ask J that what's his plan and how much we can hope for fxp team?!

thanks!

---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 PM ----------

you say everytime: update your phones but there is no much time I had bought a X10 and I cant buy a device every 3 month...I choose android because everybody says android is open source and android for all of people...if I knew this is android that i must upgrade my phone every3month I never did think about android...so I could choose BADA....

by the way if anyone are going to leave x10 ,dont mind...I will release all the 4,5,6kernels and ics to my x10 by myself alone , because I love x10! and plz dont think guys I am TripNRaver!

since when open source & android for everyone means your phone will get updates until the day it dies & won't boot ? since when it means no need to upgrade your phone? and every three months? you mean you bought X10 three months ago? well sorry buddy but if you want to be up to date withe latest OS & bought X10 three months ago you have no one else to blame but yourself, You made a mistake

The Gingerbread Man · Nov 17, 2011

Amin` said:
Guys!

Can anyone try to ask J that what's his plan and how much we can hope for fxp team?!

thanks!

---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:36 PM ----------

you say everytime: update your phones but there is no much time I had bought a X10 and I cant buy a device every 3 month...I choose android because everybody says android is open source and android for all of people...if I knew this is android that i must upgrade my phone every3month I never did think about android...so I could choose BADA....

by the way if anyone are going to leave x10 ,dont mind...I will release all the 4,5,6kernels and ics to my x10 by myself alone , because I love x10! and plz dont think guys I am TripNRaver!

Dude iv had my x10 since summer 2010, my first and only android so far. Upgrading device really isn't nessesary every 3 months and I don't have the money to either. Thing is official updates from Sony stopped at 2.3.3 which was delivered in the summer. I get the feeling you arrived at the x10 party late as other people are upgrading due to age and specs moving on and a whole host of reasons. How long ago did you get yours?

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scoobysnacks · Nov 17, 2011

The Gingerbread Man said:
Dude iv had my x10 since summer 2010, my first and only android so far. Upgrading device really isn't nessesary every 3 months and I don't have the money to either. Thing is official updates from Sony stopped at 2.3.3 which was delivered in the summer. I get the feeling you arrived at the x10 party late as other people are upgrading due to age and specs moving on and a whole host of reasons. How long ago did you get yours?

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in his defense though, the constant android updates has posed a huge issue, with a lot of consumers getting screwed.

Something definitely does have to change imo. They need to slow down a little bit after ics.

Otherwise he is right, you basically will need a new phone every few months to even keep up

maddes1402 · Nov 17, 2011

Today I was looking around on XDA what is going on with ICS ports on other devices. First of all I checked devices with similar hardware like the Nexus One and HTC Desire. But when you compare the activity with a newer, popular device like the HTC Desire HD it becomes so much obvious that the main problem isn´t the hardware but more that most devs moved on to these newer devices imo.
For me it is curious that although ICS sources are released for less days and no one could really try it out on older devices you can read statements like this (#42). Somewhere else, when I remember that right, it was another dev of Cyanogenmod said that even at least 512mb RAM and a good GPU could be the minimum requirement. Especially when Google won´t update Nexus One all devices based on the same chipset could possibly been dropped.
I don´t have the knowledge but when I just see how smooth the latest Google Music app runs on the X10 it is hard to believe that FXP team isn´t able to program a smooth CM9 version

The Gingerbread Man · Nov 17, 2011

scoobysnacks said:
in his defense though, the constant android updates has posed a huge issue, with a lot of consumers getting screwed.

Something definitely does have to change imo. They need to slow down a little bit after ics.

Otherwise he is right, you basically will need a new phone every few months to even keep up

I'm affraid I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I think but might be wrong that this person just got an x10 recently, I might be wrong. I'm happy to see android steaming on and yes every few months something big happens but its not complusery to get a new phone every couple of months, around 18 - 24 months is about right, which is about how long a contract lasts and your devices official support for updates carries on with Google and the handset alliance what ever its called for 18 months.

Look at me for example, I'm preordering my nexus and awaiting delivery, and people are on about quadcore in q1 / q2 next year, so by then I wont have the latest and greatest in phone tech anymore and that's just the way the world works espicially in this day and age and being some kind of engineer scooby should know this best of all.

Must we drag this topic out more, really its getting painful....

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scoobysnacks · Nov 17, 2011

The Gingerbread Man said:
I'm affraid I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I think but might be wrong that this person just got an x10 recently, I might be wrong. I'm happy to see android steaming on and yes every few months something big happens but its not complusery to get a new phone every couple of months, around 18 - 24 months is about right, which is about how long a contract lasts and your devices official support for updates carries on with Google and the handset alliance what ever its called for 18 months.

Look at me for example, I'm preordering my nexus and awaiting delivery, and people are on about quadcore in q1 / q2 next year, so by then I wont have the latest and greatest in phone tech anymore and that's just the way the world works espicially in this day and age and being some kind of engineer scooby should know this best of all.

Must we drag this topic out more, really its getting painful....

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im referring to the average consumer who is buying a phone and seeing no updates whatsoever because android is constantly changing every ten minutes.

I think you totally missed the point of what I wrote. I'm not referring to him,but speaking generally.

A lot of people are spending lots of money on phones only to see them getting left in the dust.

Something has to change, otherwise android is going to fall out of favor with the general public

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Even with this handset alliance, you might not get the update until 6 months after it is released, and by then two new iterations of android have passed.

This isn't a technological issue, it is moreso limited to android.

Don't get me wrong, I love android it will always be my fave Os, I'm simply saying I can understand why people get frustrated...

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