Those type of apps that don't have fixed pages, but are an endless page instead, are the only ones I have issue with, which is why I attribute it to less than optimal caching.
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Those type of apps that don't have fixed pages, but are an endless page instead, are the only ones I have issue with, which is why I attribute it to less than optimal caching.
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No, I've always heard a lot of complaints on FB and XDA.
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BTW when we scroll something in iOS
ui tends to stick very closely to the finger.
although butter project on android improved its performance and it's like buttery-smooth on jelly bean, but comparing to iOS, ui doesn't stick to finger VERY closely when we scroll upside down rapidly.
is it caused by frame rate and something like ui thread thingy that others say?
ui tends to stick very closely to the finger.
although butter project on android improved its performance and it's like buttery-smooth on jelly bean, but comparing to iOS, ui doesn't stick to finger VERY closely when we scroll upside down rapidly.
is it caused by frame rate and something like ui thread thingy that others say?
Facebook is one of the worst apps on the market for lag/stutter/delay. Which ever way you want to dress it up, it's there
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Take a video of you opening up Facebook and "one flick" the scrolling down so it scrolls so we can see.
^fb app is much better than what it used to be during initial stages but still i believe its one poorly coded piece of software. Btw is it written in native code 
The android vs iOS comparison became really silly and childish.. Input latency, "sticking to finger" and what other stuff i have read around here.
It's only a phone. if it lags and you are not satisfied with it, get rid of it and buy something that will make you happy.
I can tell you that waiting and anticipating any minimal stutter or lag while scrolling fast as hell is not OCD anymore, it's called "i have too much time to waste". It doesn't matter if an app opens 0.0001ms faster, it's the overall experience that matters.
Seriously, people should really start thinking about more important things in life.
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It's only a phone. if it lags and you are not satisfied with it, get rid of it and buy something that will make you happy.
I can tell you that waiting and anticipating any minimal stutter or lag while scrolling fast as hell is not OCD anymore, it's called "i have too much time to waste". It doesn't matter if an app opens 0.0001ms faster, it's the overall experience that matters.
Seriously, people should really start thinking about more important things in life.
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Wp5 doesn't exist, it was windows mobile back then and its completely rebased
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What if I want 60 fps, finger-sticking scrolling without having to saddle myself with iOS? The complaints are valid.
Your right, we should all do that, right here on XDA Smh.
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well ya, i want mobile SoCs to perform as those on a PC , 4GB of RAM would also be nice, but the technology is not there yet. so i take whatever suits me best at the moment and enjoy it, i don't act like a needy kid about it.
Consumers' dissatisfaction and competition are indeed two factors that manufacturers/developers cannot disregard. If there hadn't been any compliants at all (I am not talking about xda community which is in general very brand/platform loyal but rather the majority who accept their handsets the way they are) I may be wrong but I assume we'd still enjoyed smoothness of GB.
Then don't buy the N4. Simple. It's called sol.
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And I think you are lying around. Stop talking about "the brother of my sister", it just uncovers your lie.
Are you serious? Facebook and tapatalk/xda are one of the worst performing apps, and you mean they don't stutter? I really want to believe this, because I always wanted to have a smooth tapatalk, but I cannot really believe without a video.
Lag? On the N4? Blasphemy! If you do ever feel like you're experiencing lag, two words: custom kernel! Debate over.
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A custom kernel changes nothing. Facebook and the others will still lag, no matter which kernel you use.
The nexus 4 isn't popular at all.
Don't joke around.
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Sorry was I acting like a needy kid? I was trying to act like a consumer with dollars to spend on a smartphone. I want that smartphone to be Android (and it will be) but that doesn't make me 100% satisfied.
I said Crapping all over Android... If you hate Android and the Nexus 4 so much why are you here?
I have no issues with lag at all on my Nexus 4. There are many variables at work here. People are using many various kernals and launchers and roms, etc.. Lag could be caused by a million different things but I will repeat.. If Android lagged so much I really do not think it would be so popular.
As for the nexus 4 not being popular I disagree. It is very popular worldwide and obviously it is popular in a Nexus 4 forum. I think it is just human nature to complain about everything. If you update your facebook and it has to download a crapload of data--THAT IS NOT LAG! If you are scrolling through your facebook threads and by doing so it has to download more threads at the same time--THAT IS NOT LAG! Sure they could cache all of that on your device and perhaps only the new data would have to be downloaded but personally I do not want my device filled with 500mb of facebook posts.
My device is very quick and virtually lag free when going through pages, etc. When using a browser or something else that is downloading tons of data from the net it is going to take a little time depending on how fast your connection is. This even happens on the fastest pcs... I think this will improve over time but I do not see this as a problem right now and if you are having so much "Android Lag" then you should really look at what else you have running.
it is the same thing with the battery life-- If you have apps downloading data every few minutes then your battery life is going to be crap. I have all my apps to only download data when I choose to do it manually and I get through an entire day every day and charge my phone at bed time. I listen to podcasts during the day, use gps occasionally, check email, send email, browse forums, etc... Play games and that is different.
There is my long winded reply to a troll post.
Yes, and so does iOS and so does Windows and so does my but on the way to work in the mornings!!
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Where do I write that I HATE android/n4?
You don't understand anything at all. You don't even understand the main issue which we complain here since 10 sites. If a app is poorly optimizated, it doesn't matter which rom/kernel/launcher you take.
Oh man are serious? There is no advertisement for the nexus 4, thats the reason why it was only sold 3 million times. It's not popular at all, simply as that.
Hm strange, iOS-devices don't have such lag. And a "crapload of data" is terribly false, there isnt much of data to load. You are phrasing like tapatalk/facebook has to load megabyte over megabyte like a heavy website, but that's wrong.
There is my long winded reply to a troll post.
I hope you are just joking.
Lmao.. I wasn't lieing. My sisters Iphone5 lags and shutters like crazy. She Hates it..
I agree if you guys don't like you phones.. Or android for that matter go away.. Stop complaining.
Its obvious your trolling. You love the IFail and you posy about it all around the forums.. Just stop already
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I agree if you guys don't like you phones.. Or android for that matter go away.. Stop complaining.
Its obvious your trolling. You love the IFail and you posy about it all around the forums.. Just stop already
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I said Crapping all over Android... If you hate Android and the Nexus 4 so much why are you here?
...
There is my long winded reply to a troll post.
Its a pity I can't give any more "thanks" just to annoy fenster guy
as he seems to not understanding how the fetching of data can be related to stuttering or lag as they call it. It doesn't matter if its few KB or MB as its still a long way to convert these bites into something meaningful on your screen. And if you have poor connection or slow the stutter will be more obvious. I believe iOS fetches the data differently even on browser as iOS can leave a lot of data behind (blank spaces) when loading websites whereas android tries to load as much data as it can at once. I believe this issue has been discussed in the olden htc desire days and I think someone wrote pretty solid article on why and how android "lags"
If you refer to UI lag then also its different the way iOS and android prioritises what needs to be loaded - there should be an article on the net about it.
Anyway I love my nexus 4 maybe because I still use htc desire from time to time and I can't believe how much android has matured and how much it has improved.
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yes i am a developer, i work as one for many years in the field, i develop in countless languages down to machine language or asm. and yes, i develop android aswell in my freetime. low level android, not java sdk. i dont need to back it up because it can be seen at plain sight. every other framework i have worked with in my life gives you the capacity to prioritise ui events, here's how ms does it for instance. android still lags, no matter how many cores you stuff in it, it will always lag. unless they take care of the basics, which they will probably do. i dont understand though what bit you or pinched your pride so badly, i wasnt awfuly impolite or anything to deserve such a knee-jerk reaction. this is a developer forum, god forbid that developers will share their opinions and impressions.8Sounds like snake oil. Androids remaining lag is too deeply rooted to be squashed with some shell code parlor trick. Android gives content fetching more priority than rendering the UI, it's something that Google has to take care of by rewriting the framework. Ios does this beautifully btw, it doesn't need 4 cores for fluid scrolling and even with 4 cores nexus can't touch it ... yet.7
I said Crapping all over Android... If you hate Android and the Nexus 4 so much why are you here?
I have no issues with lag at all on my Nexus 4. There are many variables at work here. People are using many various kernals and launchers and roms, etc.. Lag could be caused by a million different things but I will repeat.. If Android lagged so much I really do not think it would be so popular.
As for the nexus 4 not being popular I disagree. It is very popular worldwide and obviously it is popular in a Nexus 4 forum. I think it is just human nature to complain about everything. If you update your facebook and it has to download a crapload of data--THAT IS NOT LAG! If you are scrolling through your facebook threads and by doing so it has to download more threads at the same time--THAT IS NOT LAG! Sure they could cache all of that on your device and perhaps only the new data would have to be downloaded but personally I do not want my device filled with 500mb of facebook posts.
My device is very quick and virtually lag free when going through pages, etc. When using a browser or something else that is downloading tons of data from the net it is going to take a little time depending on how fast your connection is. This even happens on the fastest pcs... I think this will improve over time but I do not see this as a problem right now and if you are having so much "Android Lag" then you should really look at what else you have running.
it is the same thing with the battery life-- If you have apps downloading data every few minutes then your battery life is going to be crap. I have all my apps to only download data when I choose to do it manually and I get through an entire day every day and charge my phone at bed time. I listen to podcasts during the day, use gps occasionally, check email, send email, browse forums, etc... Play games and that is different.
There is my long winded reply to a troll post.5
the catch is that androids native sdk controls are inherently laggy. if you write a native sdk conform listview, it will lag. since you mention facebook, they even wrote the list engine themselves, from scratch to avoid the problem. and its still laggy. they had an article about that in their developer blog, got alot of **** for it in the comments section. for the record, i dont think "lag" is that much of a problem, nexus4 is fluid most of the time. but its there and its noticable, especially when it fetches content. i dont believe this lag will go away even if they have 20 cores - thats why i always bought nexus, hardware does not matter, things like vsync and tripple buffering made such a difference, one day they'll optimize UI prioritising and lazy loading, that will give android a huge push again.3
IE sucks no matter how many numbers are after it.
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