[APP 4.0+] 3C All-in-One Toolbox

peterbonge · May 11, 2015

A request for the graph widget:
A color option for the time markers (vertical lines) and the outer lines would be nice. I'm using the Material white background and these lines are completely invisible.

Leostaley · May 13, 2015

A few feature requests to push 3C over the top

HOWDY!

I DO have the paid, pro version of 3C. Okay, so yeah, 3C is pretty much the best. It is ALMOST the perfect app and system management tool. Almost. But strangely, it's missing a few features that one might expect from such a comprehensive app.

The missing features are as follows:

1. "Make system app."
I found this functionality in an app called "Ultimate Backup" I can't link it because my account on xda is too new. Anyway, In the Advanced Actions tab for an app in Ultimate backup, the option exists to toggle the "system app" status of any app, to change a user app to a system app, or vice versa. This has been critical in getting rid of some carrier and manufacturer bloatware on my phone, and I figured it was the sort of thing that 3C would be able to do too, but, for some reason, it doesn't.

2. Also included in many app managers, including Ultimate Backup, you have a link to the Google Play store for any app app you select. This would be really helpful in 3C as well.

3. Charts detailing storage used, like in Ultimate Backup. I highly recommend having a look at the app to see some of the things it does which 3C could do too. Although, for the charts detailing storage, It would be even better to have multiple view options for it, including a pie chart of all data on the phone.

4. Finally, a great program with a fair bit of overlap with 3C, "Elixer2" has links to a ton of information that seems pretty obvious should be accessible in 3C as well, especially the stuff in the "Wifi Settings" and "Phone Info" Android underbelly. Elixer2 also has better designed, and thus more useful, task manager (with it's multiple views), and file explorer (with more details displayed) which 3C could definitely take some cues from.

Anyway, thanks for the great app, and keep up the good work!

-Leo

teemo · May 14, 2015

Leostaley said:
HOWDY!

I DO have the paid, pro version of 3C. Okay, so yeah, 3C is pretty much the best. It is ALMOST the perfect app and system management tool. Almost. But strangely, it's missing a few features that one might expect from such a comprehensive app.

The missing features are as follows:

1. "Make system app."
I found this functionality in an app called "Ultimate Backup" I can't link it because my account on xda is too new. Anyway, In the Advanced Actions tab for an app in Ultimate backup, the option exists to toggle the "system app" status of any app, to change a user app to a system app, or vice versa. This has been critical in getting rid of some carrier and manufacturer bloatware on my phone, and I figured it was the sort of thing that 3C would be able to do too, but, for some reason, it doesn't.

2. Also included in many app managers, including Ultimate Backup, you have a link to the Google Play store for any app app you select. This would be really helpful in 3C as well.

3. Charts detailing storage used, like in Ultimate Backup. I highly recommend having a look at the app to see some of the things it does which 3C could do too. Although, for the charts detailing storage, It would be even better to have multiple view options for it, including a pie chart of all data on the phone.

4. Finally, a great program with a fair bit of overlap with 3C, "Elixer2" has links to a ton of information that seems pretty obvious should be accessible in 3C as well, especially the stuff in the "Wifi Settings" and "Phone Info" Android underbelly. Elixer2 also has better designed, and thus more useful, task manager (with it's multiple views), and file explorer (with more details displayed) which 3C could definitely take some cues from.

Anyway, thanks for the great app, and keep up the good work!

-Leo

1
Why toggle when you can simply select the system app and "uninstall". Apps manager - long press - uninstall. You need to change view to "system" or "all" first.
To "toggle" a system app, select "Move".

2
App manager - Backups
Long press the app - select "Store".

3
Did you try System Manager - SD - Analyze?

Leostaley · May 15, 2015

Re: A few feature requests to push 3C over the top

teemo said:
1
Why toggle when you can simply select the system app and "uninstall". Apps manager - long press - uninstall. You need to change view to "system" or "all" first.
To "toggle" a system app, select "Move".

2
App manager - Backups
Long press the app - select "Store".

3
Did you try System Manager - SD - Analyze?

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1. Thanks! The reason one would want to is that System apps have different permissions than user apps. I would rather not just uninstall them; I would much rather turn them into a user app. I have to admit, I never would have guessed the option would have been under "move". Pretty unintuitive. I get that the files are really on a separate partition, and so converting between system and user apps involves actually moving the files, but I never looked there because I knew that my phone didn't allow moving to the SD card, and figured that's what it was for.

Nevertheless, it doesn't work. It might have to do with the fact that my phone Sony Z1Compact, doesn't allow moving apps to SD, it might not, but When I try moving a system app (I chose a Manufacturer installed wallpaper, to be safe), C3 just hangs. After restarting, I now find the app in my backups, but not in my active user apps.

I then tried moving one user app (Airdroid) to system. It worked, but I had to reboot the phone. Unfortunately, I tried moving it back, and 3C barfed again. I restarted, and luckily it looks like it's back where it's supposed to be, but *now* the app is taking up twice the space it was previously.

None of these issues ever occured when using Ultimate Backup to do it. Didn't even have to restart afterward.

2. I'm not using 3C to backup my apps so I was never gonna find it there

. Why not have it available in the app management options? That's a really unintuitive place for something that I feel should be placed a bit more visibly.

3. Yeah, it just didn't have all the viewing and analyzing options i was hoping for. Oh well.

Thanks!

teemo · May 15, 2015

Leostaley said:
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1. Thanks! The reason one would want to is that System apps have different permissions than user apps. I would rather not just uninstall them; I would much rather turn them into a user app. I have to admit, I never would have guessed the option would have been under "move". Pretty unintuitive. I get that the files are really on a separate partition, and so converting between system and user apps involves actually moving the files, but I never looked there because I knew that my phone didn't allow moving to the SD card, and figured that's what it was for.

Nevertheless, it doesn't work. It might have to do with the fact that my phone Sony Z1Compact, doesn't allow moving apps to SD, it might not, but When I try moving a system app (I chose a Manufacturer installed wallpaper, to be safe), C3 just hangs. After restarting, I now find the app in my backups, but not in my active user apps.

I then tried moving one user app (Airdroid) to system. It worked, but I had to reboot the phone. Unfortunately, I tried moving it back, and 3C barfed again. I restarted, and luckily it looks like it's back where it's supposed to be, but *now* the app is taking up twice the space it was previously.

None of these issues ever occured when using Ultimate Backup to do it. Didn't even have to restart afterward.

2. I'm not using 3C to backup my apps so I was never gonna find it there . Why not have it available in the app management options? That's a really unintuitive place for something that I feel should be placed a bit more visibly.

3. Yeah, it just didn't have all the viewing and analyzing options i was hoping for. Oh well.

Thanks!

1. I guess different devices have different problems, I never had this one. I always get very fast support when sending 3C a support request.
Just go to Help and create a request.

2. Just found that it is in app management as well. Just take one step more: Open-Store

Btw, you can tap the question mark on most pages to get a compressed help on the functions.

3c · May 16, 2015

Leostaley said:
HOWDY!

I DO have the paid, pro version of 3C. Okay, so yeah, 3C is pretty much the best. It is ALMOST the perfect app and system management tool. Almost. But strangely, it's missing a few features that one might expect from such a comprehensive app.

The missing features are as follows:

1. "Make system app."
I found this functionality in an app called "Ultimate Backup" I can't link it because my account on xda is too new. Anyway, In the Advanced Actions tab for an app in Ultimate backup, the option exists to toggle the "system app" status of any app, to change a user app to a system app, or vice versa. This has been critical in getting rid of some carrier and manufacturer bloatware on my phone, and I figured it was the sort of thing that 3C would be able to do too, but, for some reason, it doesn't.

2. Also included in many app managers, including Ultimate Backup, you have a link to the Google Play store for any app app you select. This would be really helpful in 3C as well.

3. Charts detailing storage used, like in Ultimate Backup. I highly recommend having a look at the app to see some of the things it does which 3C could do too. Although, for the charts detailing storage, It would be even better to have multiple view options for it, including a pie chart of all data on the phone.

4. Finally, a great program with a fair bit of overlap with 3C, "Elixer2" has links to a ton of information that seems pretty obvious should be accessible in 3C as well, especially the stuff in the "Wifi Settings" and "Phone Info" Android underbelly. Elixer2 also has better designed, and thus more useful, task manager (with it's multiple views), and file explorer (with more details displayed) which 3C could definitely take some cues from.

Anyway, thanks for the great app, and keep up the good work!

-Leo

I'm always looking for constructive feedback, so thanks for that.

1. Already there, I don't know any users not aware of the fact that system apps are located in the ROM while user apps are downloaded in the device's data area, like some apps can be moved to SD. As in TiBu, a reference in this matter, it says 'integrate into ROM'. In my app, it says 'Move' and System. Every apps has its own way of putting it.

2. Already there too, in apps manager, apps tab, open / store. Can't be more straigth forward than this.

3. Already there again, System manager, SD tab, all information is there. No bling bling, just raw data organized by size. I have improvements in mind for future updates.

4. Just tried (again) elixir2. Took me some time to find the task manager, and didn't find more information than what my app provides, actually much less. Even more so for the file manager, while Elixir2 displays only names and dates, my app provides permissions, owners, dates, sizes, all at the same time for both folders and files. The sort by size only works on files in Elixir2. Couldn't find any page with WiFi info or phone info, only found the info / peripheral page with very limited info, not more than what my app provides.

Cyclu · May 16, 2015

3c said:
I'm always looking for constructive feedback, so thanks for that.

4. Just tried (again) elixir2. Took me some time to find the task manager, and didn't find more information than what my app provides, actually much less. Even more so for the file manager, while Elixir2 displays only names and dates, my app provides permissions, owners, dates, sizes, all at the same time for both folders and files. The sort by size only works on files in Elixir2. Couldn't find any page with WiFi info or phone info, only found the info / peripheral page with very limited info, not more than what my app provides.

I use personally Elixir2 for a long time and it provides many information, even I use it for checking a lot of the XPrivacy functions.

To reveal all information, you have to click on a row to open "More information" dialog, then by clicking the arrow go to others pages. For example see the WiFi dialog in the screenshot.
By cons, indeed the file manager is too simple, I prefer one that is included in 3C Toolbox.

gdonanthony · May 19, 2015

hi its me again... im using nexus 6 now and still using 3c toolbox pro.. i really suggest giving the right options for CPU hotplug, GPU hotplug
view the github codes of Kernel Auditor or Synapse...

Sdougy · May 25, 2015

Proper network folder file path

Hello i just went through the entier post and still didnt find my answer so i guess ill ask . while going throught the settings i found that i had the abilty to backup to the net. ive tried everything i can think of and 3c wont accept my cloud drives as net servers. so what is the proper way to format a file in the net input of backup options so that 3c will back my stuff to the cloud thank you ive been working on this all day.

N.Tesla · May 25, 2015

Hi @3c ! The new notifications are beautiful! :victory:

It is certainly the best buy in google play. :fingers-crossed:

Thank you so much !! :good::good::good:

3c · May 28, 2015

gdonanthony said:
hi its me again... im using nexus 6 now and still using 3c toolbox pro.. i really suggest giving the right options for CPU hotplug, GPU hotplug
view the github codes of Kernel Auditor or Synapse...

I could not find any of those kernels for the Nexus 6. That said I believe Synapse is using a configurable file similarly to trickster, so if you can post this file, I could take a look at it.

Sdougy said:
Hello i just went through the entier post and still didnt find my answer so i guess ill ask . while going throught the settings i found that i had the abilty to backup to the net. ive tried everything i can think of and 3c wont accept my cloud drives as net servers. so what is the proper way to format a file in the net input of backup options so that 3c will back my stuff to the cloud thank you ive been working on this all day.

There's no option at the moment to backup to the net, this is something I'm still working on. In the app's explorer you can definitely access your net folders, should they be configured for Samba access. You have to enter at least the server name/IP, and user/password if protected. The folder should be optional in most configuration and allows you to see the shared folders of a Samba server. I use it everyday to access my NAS data and stream family movies.

thagringo · Jun 11, 2015

Hi @3c,

i know this is probably way to soon ( and sorry if this has already being reported or asked) but i installed toolbox pro on my nexus5 running the M preview and a couple of things arent working ( as expected).
Not that i have tested everything but from the things i use the most, battery statistics arent being displayed and the cpu manager is also missbehaving.

Thanks for your time !

reesedizan · Jun 11, 2015

When disabling permissions for applications that are installed, SuperSU does quite well for the first few permissions that are granted, but then SuperSU denies continued permissions for further disabling, thusly having to restart my phone in order to kickstart SuperSU into working again. I'll search SuperSU's forum as well to seek further direction for this issue. Thanks for your help!
Sprint Galaxy S6 Edge, Stock Lollipop.

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3c · Jun 20, 2015

thagringo said:
Hi @3c,

i know this is probably way to soon ( and sorry if this has already being reported or asked) but i installed toolbox pro on my nexus5 running the M preview and a couple of things arent working ( as expected).
Not that i have tested everything but from the things i use the most, battery statistics arent being displayed and the cpu manager is also missbehaving.

Thanks for your time !

I have the Nexus 9 running the M preview, and so far I noticed the shell is broken without the expected path definition, statistics now require extra permissions which are not requested by the helper app and some old APIs have actually been entirely removed from the preview. An update should be published soon. I have no problems with CPU manager though, it's more related to kernel, but this shell issue is likely having a deeper impact.

Lughnasadh · Jun 20, 2015

@3c
Just wanted to thank you for this great app. I've been using the Pro version for quite a while and it is my go to app. You have done a remarkable job with it. I've recommended it to a lot of people. Keep up the good work :good:

thagringo · Jun 23, 2015

3c said:
I have the Nexus 9 running the M preview, and so far I noticed the shell is broken without the expected path definition, statistics now require extra permissions which are not requested by the helper app and some old APIs have actually been entirely removed from the preview. An update should be published soon. I have no problems with CPU manager though, it's more related to kernel, but this shell issue is likely having a deeper impact.

thanks for your reply !
what i see with cpu manager is that it basically displays different stats than other apps ( like kernel adiutor) and sometimes the selected scheduler doesnt stick. But no biggie of course and as you said it might be kernel related after all. There are probably lots of more important problems that have to be taken care of first.

thanks for your time !

izeeqo · Jun 26, 2015

Hi everyone,

I have a problem with 3C Toolbox
When I go to "CPU Management" and I've configure my settings for the CPU, I click the circular button, on the top right, next to the parameters logo , and it's marked "ON", but when I restart my phone, nothing is saved, the old parameter setting is back. What could I do ?

Gerxp · Jun 28, 2015

I have issues with a bought version of 3C Toolbox.
Installing the System Helper app fails.
I get a fail to install message. I tried manually copying the app to Priv-app folder with a filemanager. But I dont think it helps. Because Batter Manager Statistics keeps loading forever.

I tried rebooting, removing, reinstalling.

I am on a S4, rooted, Android 5.1.1 by AntaresOne.
Any help is welcome.

thagringo · Jun 28, 2015

@3c : wow, that was quick, thanks for the update !!

cheers guys

Gerxp · Jun 28, 2015

Gerxp said:
I have issues with a bought version of 3C Toolbox.
Installing the System Helper app fails.
I get a fail to install message. I tried manually copying the app to Priv-app folder with a filemanager. But I dont think it helps. Because Batter Manager Statistics keeps loading forever.

I tried rebooting, removing, reinstalling.

I am on a S4, rooted, Android 5.1.1 by AntaresOne.
Any help is welcome.

Ok I forgot to tell that I am using Multirom.
I installed the same rom as second rom. And in there I installed 3C Toolbox. Installing the helper file gave no problems.
So, not sure why it didnt install in the first place.

Next day:
problem solved after messing with primary and secundary.

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