WiFi strength, range, and throughput

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maximosm

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Do we know the maximum speed that connects at an ac1900 router? I have the oneplus 2 now and it connects at 433Mbps

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Do we know the maximum speed that connects at an ac1900 router? I have the oneplus 2 now and it connects at 433Mbps

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I returned mine but I was the first to do WiFi tests 4 weeks ago. Axon 7 only connects at 433Mbps due to the lower Qualcomm WiFi version in the soc.

All the best.
 
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hardspartan360

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That's not true. I have an Axon 7 and it connects Up to 866mbps
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Yaya444

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I was using the USA variant. It will not connect at higher than 433Mbps using a r7000 router. All my other similar mobile devices can connect at 866Mbps.
Aida64 reported the battery in the Axon 7 being 3100mah but zte says it's 3250mah. Maybe Aida is not reporting accurately Or maybe Zte is not truthful.
 

test878

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I was using the USA variant. It will not connect at higher than 433Mbps using a r7000 router. All my other similar mobile devices can connect at 866Mbps.
Aida64 reported the battery in the Axon 7 being 3100mah but zte says it's 3250mah. Maybe Aida is not reporting accurately Or maybe Zte is not truthful.

My aida64 is reporting 433 on a US model, with an r8000 router. So I am having the same issue.
 

TeutonJon78

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There are two Qualcomm VIVE chipset that can be paired with the 820 -- https://www.qualcomm.com/products/vive/chipsets -- scroll down to the chipsets for devices. One tops out at 433 and the other tops out at 866. It going to depend on which version of the chip they used. My guess for a "budget flagship", they used the lower of the two chipsets. The best bet would probably be to pull info from the kernel or from something like lspci.
 
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There are two Qualcomm VIVE chipset that can be paired with the 820 -- https://www.qualcomm.com/products/vive/chipsets -- scroll down to the chipsets for devices. One tops out at 433 and the other tops out at 866. It going to depend on which version of the chip they used. My guess for a "budget flagship", they used the lower of the two chipsets. The best bet would probably be to pull info from the kernel or from something like lspci.

Good find, weird that they seemingly chose the better wifi/bt module for the global/eu version but gave the U.S. the worse of the two. Wonder if it was due to issues with the U.S. network bands? Apparently the OP3 also uses the same QCA6164A 433Mbps chip. Next up is to determine where the cellular issues are coming from ~.~
 

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There are two Qualcomm VIVE chipset that can be paired with the 820 -- https://www.qualcomm.com/products/vive/chipsets -- scroll down to the chipsets for devices. One tops out at 433 and the other tops out at 866. It going to depend on which version of the chip they used. My guess for a "budget flagship", they used the lower of the two chipsets. The best bet would probably be to pull info from the kernel or from something like lspci.

Per kernel source, only QCA6174 is mentioned so it might be a flag that sets the limit peak speed. Since kernel was B18, it is the US version one. There are multiple version of the firmware files thouhg
Code:
define QCA6174_VENDOR_ID	(0x168C)
#define QCA6174_DEVICE_ID	(0x003E)
#define BEELINER_DEVICE_ID      (0x0040)
#define QCA6174_REV_ID_OFFSET	(0x08)
#define QCA6174_FW_1_1	(0x11)
#define QCA6174_FW_1_3	(0x13)
#define QCA6174_FW_2_0	(0x20)
#define QCA6174_FW_3_0	(0x30)
#define QCA6174_FW_3_2	(0x32)
#define BEELINER_FW	(0x00)
#define AR6320_REV1_VERSION             0x5000000
#define AR6320_REV1_1_VERSION           0x5000001
#define AR6320_REV1_3_VERSION           0x5000003
#define AR6320_REV2_1_VERSION           0x5010000
#define AR6320_REV3_VERSION             0x5020000
#define AR6320_REV3_2_VERSION           0x5030000
#define AR900B_DEV_VERSION              0x1000000

static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_1_1 = {
"qwlan11.bin", "bdwlan11.bin", "otp11.bin", "utf11.bin",
"utfbd11.bin", "epping11.bin", "evicted11.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_2_0 = {
"qwlan20.bin", "bdwlan20.bin", "otp20.bin", "utf20.bin",
"utfbd20.bin", "epping20.bin", "evicted20.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_1_3 = {
"qwlan13.bin", "bdwlan13.bin", "otp13.bin", "utf13.bin",
"utfbd13.bin", "epping13.bin", "evicted13.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_3_0 = {
"qwlan30.bin", "bdwlan30.bin", "otp30.bin", "utf30.bin",
"utfbd30.bin", "epping30.bin", "evicted30.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_DEFAULT = {
"qwlan.bin", "bdwlan.bin", "otp.bin", "utf.bin",
"utfbd.bin", "epping.bin", "evicted.bin"};

#define QCA6180_VENDOR_ID	(0x168C)
#define QCA6180_DEVICE_ID	(0x0041)
#define QCA6180_REV_ID_OFFSET	(0x08)
6164 is not in the source code at all
There are also def's for QCA6180, but no info on it on the net, and it's only few entries.
 

peramikic

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Per kernel source, only QCA6174 is mentioned so it might be a flag that sets the limit peak speed. Since kernel was B18, it is the US version one. There are multiple version of the firmware files thouhg
Code:
define QCA6174_VENDOR_ID	(0x168C)
#define QCA6174_DEVICE_ID	(0x003E)
#define BEELINER_DEVICE_ID      (0x0040)
#define QCA6174_REV_ID_OFFSET	(0x08)
#define QCA6174_FW_1_1	(0x11)
#define QCA6174_FW_1_3	(0x13)
#define QCA6174_FW_2_0	(0x20)
#define QCA6174_FW_3_0	(0x30)
#define QCA6174_FW_3_2	(0x32)
#define BEELINER_FW	(0x00)
#define AR6320_REV1_VERSION             0x5000000
#define AR6320_REV1_1_VERSION           0x5000001
#define AR6320_REV1_3_VERSION           0x5000003
#define AR6320_REV2_1_VERSION           0x5010000
#define AR6320_REV3_VERSION             0x5020000
#define AR6320_REV3_2_VERSION           0x5030000
#define AR900B_DEV_VERSION              0x1000000

static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_1_1 = {
"qwlan11.bin", "bdwlan11.bin", "otp11.bin", "utf11.bin",
"utfbd11.bin", "epping11.bin", "evicted11.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_2_0 = {
"qwlan20.bin", "bdwlan20.bin", "otp20.bin", "utf20.bin",
"utfbd20.bin", "epping20.bin", "evicted20.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_1_3 = {
"qwlan13.bin", "bdwlan13.bin", "otp13.bin", "utf13.bin",
"utfbd13.bin", "epping13.bin", "evicted13.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_QCA6174_FW_3_0 = {
"qwlan30.bin", "bdwlan30.bin", "otp30.bin", "utf30.bin",
"utfbd30.bin", "epping30.bin", "evicted30.bin"};
static struct cnss_fw_files FW_FILES_DEFAULT = {
"qwlan.bin", "bdwlan.bin", "otp.bin", "utf.bin",
"utfbd.bin", "epping.bin", "evicted.bin"};

#define QCA6180_VENDOR_ID	(0x168C)
#define QCA6180_DEVICE_ID	(0x0041)
#define QCA6180_REV_ID_OFFSET	(0x08)
6164 is not in the source code at all
There are also def's for QCA6180, but no info on it on the net, and it's only few entries.

Can someone who is rooted run dmesg in a terminal and post output, it should show us the chip and possibly even the firmware. It would be good to get both U and G versions
 
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Can someone who is rooted run dmesg in a terminal and post output, it should show us the chip and possibly even the firmware. It would be good to get both U and G versions

Where in the kernel dump did you find that?

Also, since they are basically the same HW but different specs, I wonder if they could be running essentially the same FW/API and then the final speed is just limited by the chip itself. Kind of like how Intel and GPU makers bin less performant chips as a lower model. Maybe some part of the radio is slightly busted so they become the 6164A version but with the same firmware. It definitely an odd situation.
 
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peramikic

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Where in the kernel dump did you find that?

Also, since they are basically the same HW but different specs, I wonder if they could be running essentially the same FW/API and then the final speed is just limited by the chip itself. Kind of like how Intel and GPU makers bin less performant chips as a lower model. Maybe some part of the radio is slightly busted so they become the 6164A version but with the same firmware. It definitely an odd situation.

The file is here drivers\net\wireless\cnss. If it's limited it will probably be in the radio firmware and there are apparently 5 FW versions.
 
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Good find, weird that they seemingly chose the better wifi/bt module for the global/eu version but gave the U.S. the worse of the two. Wonder if it was due to issues with the U.S. network bands? Apparently the OP3 also uses the same QCA6164A 433Mbps chip. Next up is to determine where the cellular issues are coming from ~.~

Can anyone else confirm or have evidence that the international version has better wifi performance? Also I wonder if Canada is getting the US or International version because it always seems to vary per manufacturer.
 

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My Wifi works just fine, same as my Note 5 . Cellular signal is slightly lower on the Axon 7, hope they can fix it with a radio update at some point.
 
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I was a bit nervous when I ordered A7 reading few (many) complaints about Wi-Fi and lte capability. It was so unbelievable that ZTE could release phone with such problem. Anyway I ordered it from Amazon and I got it yesterday. (A2017G/B03)

Of course I would have liked to check it immediately. Recently we have used Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and S4. Actually we are satisfied with both phones very much so far. We haven't had any signal or Wi-Fi issue for years. So I compared A7 to them. We were in a place where gsm/3G/4G signal strength was very poor. Practically it meant zero inside the building and very poor in outside. My first experience was that I got signal inside sometimes with A7 but apart from this gsm and data capability was the same around the house. It is poor of course.

Later at home I did some measurement by using Network Signal Info. I put phones next to each other. Both got SIM from same provider (Vodafone) and they connected to same tower (LTE). Signal strength was between 70 and 80 dBm during the test and from time to time I exchanged phones in position. I did test horizontal position as well as vertical position. Well I would say that A7 and Note 3 performed on very same level. May be Axon was better with 1 or 2 and rarely 3 dB more times than vice-verse but it was hard to diagnose. Also the position was very important. Phone which was in a particular position performed better almost always. I repeat the test with S4 too. May be it is better than other two but I have to emphasize that differences were very-very tiny. Rather I would say that 3 phones have same signal receiver capability.

Wi-fi. I can say same. ZTE has same signal strength and data transfer rate as Note 3 but I have to emphasize here as well that many-many things can impact the result included the position of the tester near to the phones.
I copied files from to PC via Wi-fi and Total Commander showed same rate as in case of Note and S4 earlier.
Finally. My opinion is that ZTE is not worse than the average at all. What is more it performs very well even if some phones are better. I think it can do what Snapdragon makes available.
 

maximosm

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For europe model compared with Op2 its the same. Compared with zuk z1 WiFi of z1 is 15% better.

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    Rate this thread to express how you think the ZTE Axon 7's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

    Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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    I was a bit nervous when I ordered A7 reading few (many) complaints about Wi-Fi and lte capability. It was so unbelievable that ZTE could release phone with such problem. Anyway I ordered it from Amazon and I got it yesterday. (A2017G/B03)

    Of course I would have liked to check it immediately. Recently we have used Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and S4. Actually we are satisfied with both phones very much so far. We haven't had any signal or Wi-Fi issue for years. So I compared A7 to them. We were in a place where gsm/3G/4G signal strength was very poor. Practically it meant zero inside the building and very poor in outside. My first experience was that I got signal inside sometimes with A7 but apart from this gsm and data capability was the same around the house. It is poor of course.

    Later at home I did some measurement by using Network Signal Info. I put phones next to each other. Both got SIM from same provider (Vodafone) and they connected to same tower (LTE). Signal strength was between 70 and 80 dBm during the test and from time to time I exchanged phones in position. I did test horizontal position as well as vertical position. Well I would say that A7 and Note 3 performed on very same level. May be Axon was better with 1 or 2 and rarely 3 dB more times than vice-verse but it was hard to diagnose. Also the position was very important. Phone which was in a particular position performed better almost always. I repeat the test with S4 too. May be it is better than other two but I have to emphasize that differences were very-very tiny. Rather I would say that 3 phones have same signal receiver capability.

    Wi-fi. I can say same. ZTE has same signal strength and data transfer rate as Note 3 but I have to emphasize here as well that many-many things can impact the result included the position of the tester near to the phones.
    I copied files from to PC via Wi-fi and Total Commander showed same rate as in case of Note and S4 earlier.
    Finally. My opinion is that ZTE is not worse than the average at all. What is more it performs very well even if some phones are better. I think it can do what Snapdragon makes available.
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    Axon 7 has weak Wi-Fi performance. 5ghz
    fluctuates like a bouncing ball. Really hope it's not a bad antenna design with this phone.

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    The guy from the zte webinar didn't even know it's AC capable phone. This doesn't inspire confidence.
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    Both the Wifi, and cell signals are weaker than the Nexus 6P and the Samsung S7 Edge by a fair margin. With the Wifi, this is most notable when you're on a level of a house other than the level of the router. The Wifi cuts out periodically, and its signal strength is about 1/3rd of the other two phones in the same location.

    It's cell signal on T-Mobile is also significantly weaker than the signal with the same sim card in the same location on the 6P and S7 Edge. Difference is -114db (Axon) vs. -101db (Nexus).
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    I have got the german model A2017G and can say that my wifi Signal ist better then with my moto x play. Absolutly no Problems with Signal here...

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