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This is done with great intentions, but it is not going to work.
We know for a fact, that exactly those people who have questions, and post them in all the worst places, don't read any of the thread titles.
They don't read the information threads, they don't see "DON'T POST IN THIS DEVELOPMENT FORUM" warnings, and so on.
ALSO, this thread is just one more thing to rapidly become outdated - like the sticky thread that has months-old information.
All you have to do is go to a movie, go to sleep, or maybe even vacation, and immediately this has no longer correct information.
And it is one more thread pushing other development threads off the front page.
Fine idea, but it won't work in the real world.
We know for a fact, that exactly those people who have questions, and post them in all the worst places, don't read any of the thread titles.
They don't read the information threads, they don't see "DON'T POST IN THIS DEVELOPMENT FORUM" warnings, and so on.
ALSO, this thread is just one more thing to rapidly become outdated - like the sticky thread that has months-old information.
All you have to do is go to a movie, go to sleep, or maybe even vacation, and immediately this has no longer correct information.
And it is one more thread pushing other development threads off the front page.
Fine idea, but it won't work in the real world.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I'm going to keep it updated as long as I can. Since I'm on here pretty consistantly. When I can't afford the time to do so, I will pull the information.
I know no one reads these types of threads, but I just had 200+ views in under and hour, so hopefully this solved a few issues without added noise to the real threads.
I think what you're looking to do is make a FAQ or guide or something. Maybe a better place where people can all collaborate (and correct any errors you have made, and I see a few minor ones) would be set up a FAQ page on nookdevs.com or something..
Also, it may be a better idea to organize the bits of information by category so people can quickly find it. Use as few words as you can in the first sentence so that people scanning for their issue don't have to read the whole thing...
Finally, it's "dalingrin"
Also, it may be a better idea to organize the bits of information by category so people can quickly find it. Use as few words as you can in the first sentence so that people scanning for their issue don't have to read the whole thing...
Finally, it's "dalingrin"
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Geez...if I had a dollar everytime I messed up dalingrin's spelling... :S
Yeah, I figured there would be a few half-truths in there from me not totally understanding what is going on as well as you guys, but feel free to PM or post on here where I can change stuff. I'll try to simplify it as well.
Yeah, I figured there would be a few half-truths in there from me not totally understanding what is going on as well as you guys, but feel free to PM or post on here where I can change stuff. I'll try to simplify it as well.
I just read over the OP and holy SH*T that is confusing, no offense. Here are some tips for writing helpful FAQs/Guides:
Just some friendly tips for writing helpful guides
- Space it out. Everything all clumped together in one block of text helps no one. Space it out (ie like this list).
- Add titles or headers in between sections (this goes along with the first point) to clearly guide people to where they need to read. People want to read what is pertinent to them; not read an entire block of text and then try to figure out which applies to their case. Help others help themselves.
- For all this CM7-specific information, add version numbers in front of bullet points (for the same reason as the previous point).
- Ironically, none of your "Common Questions" are actually Questions. Questions end with a "?". What you have are "Common Answers". Insert questions before them so people can quickly decide if reading that particular bullet point is pertinent to them.
- [5/10] Since this is all changing at such a ridiculously fast pace, add dates in front of bullet points where necessary (like at the beginning of this bullet point), so people can clearly tell what is outdated and what is new. I really wish Dal etc did this for his threads since a TON of the info in his threads are ridiculously out of date.
- Learn to use the [ list ] and [ * ] tags -- quote post #10 of this thread to see what I mean.
Just some friendly tips for writing helpful guides
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Also the particular answers in the OP are very specific to the Alpha Test Builds of the last few days.
Those builds, like dalingrin's, are accompanied by FAQs right where the download link is.
The problem is that people talk about these things elsewhere, and even worse, put up mirror links without the FAQ - which just happened with the new Beta .32 build - one guy complained about not being able to download it because everyone else was hitting the same site at the same moment - so a mirror was posted later in the thread without dalingrin's FAQ.
Someone made a wise comment recently that people who cannot find the already posted detailed information, should not be installing these test builds in the first place, as they don't know what they are doing (and they never report enough detail in their bug feedback - such as exactly which build they have installed).
Those builds, like dalingrin's, are accompanied by FAQs right where the download link is.
The problem is that people talk about these things elsewhere, and even worse, put up mirror links without the FAQ - which just happened with the new Beta .32 build - one guy complained about not being able to download it because everyone else was hitting the same site at the same moment - so a mirror was posted later in the thread without dalingrin's FAQ.
Someone made a wise comment recently that people who cannot find the already posted detailed information, should not be installing these test builds in the first place, as they don't know what they are doing (and they never report enough detail in their bug feedback - such as exactly which build they have installed).
Geez, Dude, you're harshing my mellow. At least Ace is trying to be helpful and doing something positive. Your negative attitude isn't helping anyone.
I for one, would like to say "thank you" to Ace. The OP couldn't have come at a better time as I was a little confused about the new 7.1.0 ROM and "2.6.32" thread was not helping at all. Keep up the good work!
Personally, I would love to see something like this:
Unfortunately, I have a very limited understanding of all the stuff that is currently happening day-to-day. I run only stables (currently on 7.0.2 flashed weeks ago) for fear that I might mess up my NC because I may have missed a key detail in post #1238 in thread X, Y, or Z. A centralized thread with all this information run by someone dedicated to updating it daily would be a great help to everyone. People like Dal and other developers are busy developing, and rightfully so
- 7.0.2
- Date the below info was updated: 5/10
- General Info:
- Benefits of This Build:
- Common Issues:
- How to Flash / Download Location:
- Supported Kernels / Download Locations:
- 7.0.3
- Date the below info was updated: 5/10
- General Info:
- Benefits of This Build:
- Common Issues:
- How to Flash / Download Location:
- Supported Kernels / Download Locations:
- Nightly ##
- Date the below info was updated: 5/10
- General Info:
- Benefits of This Build:
- Common Issues:
- How to Flash / Download Location:
- Supported Kernels / Download Locations:
- Nightly ##
- Date the below info was updated: 5/10
- General Info:
- Benefits of This Build:
- Common Issues:
- How to Flash / Download Location:
- Supported Kernels / Download Locations:
- Other Builds etc
- Date the below info was updated: 5/10
- General Info:
- Benefits of This Build:
- Common Issues:
- How to Flash / Download Location:
- Supported Kernels / Download Locations:
- Miscellaneous Questions Not Specific to a Particular Build
- [5/10] How do I do X?
- [5/10] Where do I get Gapps?
- [5/10] Additional Questions
- [5/10] Additional Questions
Unfortunately, I have a very limited understanding of all the stuff that is currently happening day-to-day. I run only stables (currently on 7.0.2 flashed weeks ago) for fear that I might mess up my NC because I may have missed a key detail in post #1238 in thread X, Y, or Z. A centralized thread with all this information run by someone dedicated to updating it daily would be a great help to everyone. People like Dal and other developers are busy developing, and rightfully so
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When updating from 7.0.2 to 7.0.3 are you suppose to use rom manager? Or download the file from PC then transfer it over to SD and use recovery mode to update? Also your suppose to use titanium to back up apps and data only correct just incase. But as far as updating wipe cache and dalvik.... I just want to make sure I'm doing it correct that way all my apps stay. Fyi I'm running cm7 of internal
Actually, it occurred to me that a FAQ thread like this should be in "Nook General Forum", but that your OP, with all the information about nightlies and so on, should be posted to the end of the CM7 User General Discussion thread in this Forum.
That thread is where all these questions come up.
That thread is where all these questions come up.
Personally, I find that ROM manager is another program that can have bugs, so I don't use it.
I just put the file on my SD card wirelessly using "Samba Filesharing App" (free in the market), and then use Clockworkmod Recovery to install it.
It looks like with many recent changes, it helps to first do "wipe system" and "wipe cache" before installing the new file.
Since our personal stuff is in "data", then I do not wipe that.
I also find that the "nandroid backup" on Clockworkmod Recovery is more reliable than Titanium Backup (same comment as for ROM manager). If you do a complete nandroid backup and then a complete recovery, it brings back everything - all the partitions - so it is a great thing to do when everything is working nicely.
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I think what you're looking to do is make a FAQ or guide or something. Maybe a better place where people can all collaborate (and correct any errors you have made, and I see a few minor ones) would be set up a FAQ page on nookdevs.com or something..
Also, it may be a better idea to organize the bits of information by category so people can quickly find it. Use as few words as you can in the first sentence so that people scanning for their issue don't have to read the whole thing...
Finally, it's "dalingrin"
Agreed. Forums for information dissemination are just ****ty beyond belief. We, the NC/xda community, need to either start taking the NC wiki seriously, or fenagle the owners of this fine establishment into upgrading to something more collaborative. No offense, but the only thing worse than forums for a large community is an email mailing list. shudder ... lol
Seriously. Forums are areas for discussion. Not Q&A.
I bought my Nook last week and since then i've been trying to learn how to tinker with custom roms and kernels but this subforum is total chaotic and newbie-unfriendly.
We (new users) need a wiki to get some basic knowledge about modding.9
All that stuff is scattered and buried in subtopics, I have took a lot of time just to install CWM on eMMC.
Now I'm running 1.2 rooted on emmc and CM7 nightly on SD, I couldn't get dual boot working on EMMC nor SD.
We (new users) need a wiki to get some basic knowledge about modding.9
All that stuff is scattered and buried in subtopics, I have took a lot of time just to install CWM on eMMC.
Now I'm running 1.2 rooted on emmc and CM7 nightly on SD, I couldn't get dual boot working on EMMC nor SD.
I bought my Nook last week and since then i've been trying to learn how to tinker with custom roms and kernels but this subforum is total chaotic and newbie-unfriendly.
We (new users) need a wiki to get some basic knowledge about modding.9
All that stuff is scattered and buried in subtopics, I have took a lot of time just to install CWM on eMMC.
Now I'm running 1.2 rooted on emmc and CM7 nightly on SD, I couldn't get dual boot working on EMMC nor SD.
There is a Wiki stickied to the 1st page of the general section of the Nook Color Forum......http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=890549.
Ace created this thread in response to a rash of redundant questions.
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FFS...
The Nookdevs Wiki is (and always has been) open for anyone to update or correct. If you see something out of date, missing or wrong, please feel welcome to fix it. Many of us who used to keep it completely current are working on other things and are not updating it as frequently.1
Ok, so I stopped ranting and edited the wiki with a little info from this thread, thanks.
