Help Nokia solve the Lumia 900 "purple tint" mystery

Is your Lumia 900 affected by the "purple tint" screen issue?

  • Black Lumia 900, YES

    Votes: 20 31.3%
  • Black Lumia 900, NO

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • Cyan Lumia 900, YES

    Votes: 13 20.3%
  • Cyan Lumia 900, NO

    Votes: 8 12.5%
  • White Lumia 900, YES

    Votes: 10 15.6%
  • White Lumia 900, NO

    Votes: 2 3.1%

  • Total voters
    64
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sitizenx

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A moderator over at the nokiausa.com forum is asking people to PM him details about phones that have the "purple tint" screen issue. His name is Kosh and he can be contacted HERE. He wants a PM with very specific information. He says to PM the following information...

Kosh said:
ref; Purple_tint

Device model:

Device IMEI number:

OS version:

firmware revision :

Hardware revision :

a short but detailed desctiption of your experience with this


You will find this information in Settings > About > more information

He made this request in a thread about the "purple tint." Just create an account and PM Kosh the requested information in a succinct message. Hopefully they will figure out what is going on.

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The image on the left is medium brightness and the image on the right is the same phone on low brightness. The "purple tint" issue goes far beyond a different color keyboard while texting. The entire screen is affected no matter what you are viewing.
 
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sitizenx

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Update: I exchanged my phone

I exchanged by black Lumia 900 for a white Lumia 900. The new phone does not have the purple tint issue. It took some work to find a phone that doesn't have the issue. I had to go to three seperate at&t corporate stores over the course of three days.

The first thing I did at each location is walk in and set all the Lumia 900 display phones to LOW brightness. I then set my phone to LOW brightness. I then started a new text message on each phone and compared the keyboards. Most of the time the display phones will not have the purple issue or you may find 1 out of three with the issue.

Next tell the sales staff what the issue is with your phone. Every place I went into this week had no clue about the purple screen issue. Most people will be pretty accommodating and will easily do one swap out without any fuss. Unfortunately you may also encounter some people that will tell you that the purple keyboard in the text messaging screen is just a "feature." All you have to do is politely point out all their display models do not have this "feature."

Unfortunately in my neck of the woods there are a lot of Lumia 900s with the purple screen issue. So you may have to go through 3 phones at a location before you find one that functions as expected. Usually you will be told after two phones and certainly after three phone swaps they no longer have any in stock. I suspect in a lot of cases that is a lie but what are you going to do? Move on to the next location.

Try different colors. Be flexible. I went though something like 6 black phones before I tried a white one. The white one didn't have the issue. As the poll indicates there are problems across the product line. But it doesn't hurt to switch it up just for fun.

Interestingly the white phone I picked up this week did NOT have a green dot on the box. It had the latest firmware. I don't know if that means anything.

w2olmo.jpg


The phone on the left is medium brightness. The phone on the right is low brightness. The color balance on my digital camera which I used to take these pictures was not calibrated perfectly for the lighting conditions. I can assure you though there is no obvious color cast on the screen at both settings. Problem solved.

One rather unfortunate thing happened during this saga. I went to the at&t corporate store located at 172 Deming St Manchester, CT. As usual when I walked into the store they had no clue about the purple screen issue. The salesman that helped me out did a full exchange BEFORE checking the screen. When he finally fired up the screen and checked it it was purple. I wandered off to give him a chance to rectify the problem. I believe he checked another phone and it had the same problem. The first issue is they should not do all the paperwork for the exchange before confirming everything works as expected. It's a waste of time.

After his first mistake the next thing the guy did was finally come back and feed me this BS story...

The white male sales clerk, who shall remain nameless, with a straight face told me he did some checking and that a message had gone out to managers that this is a known issue and that Nokia is working on a firmware fix that should be out in less than a month. So this guy went from never hearing about the issue when I walked through the door to knowing exactly what the problem is and what the fix will be. Anyone else hearing this story or did I get filled full of bologna?

Anyway who knows what the issue really is. My philosophy is either return the phone and pick up a product from a different manufacturer or go out and aggressively try and find a working Lumia 900. I suspect once word gets back to corporate that people are coming in and trying out 3-4 different phones they are going to clamp down and start giving people BS about a "firmware update."
 

samven582

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Thanks for the info. I was going to buy a Nokia Lumia today but after reading I guess I will wait
 

gahbmwm5

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Oct 9, 2008
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Definately interesting here as I too follow the Nokia Discussion-US Board forums, and my first White L900 had this purplish hue at the Low Brightness settings...

So I went to another AT&T Corp store and made sure that my second exchanged unit (White) did not have this purplish hue...making sure the store personnel were aware that I would also return this unit if it indeed displayed the issue after updating to the latest firmware: 2175.1002.8112.12084.

They documented my account for this: Updated through Zune went I got home and all was fine...no purplish hue.

However other issues still remain, and hopefully Nokia will rectify these troubling issues with an upcoming firmware update...
 

FiyaFleye

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Has anybody tried re-flashing their phones to eliminate this issue? I went through six phones with a rattle before finding one that did not rattle. It has the purple issue, so guess what, I'm dealing with it. I rather an issue I can fix by changing the brightness than one that sounds like it's ticking when it vibrates. Lol.
 

FiyaFleye

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This is definitely driver related guys. Take your phone, turn it to auto if you have the issue. Let it mess up the colors. Put your phone to light so it changes its brightness. Go back into darkness so it goes to low again. & your low setting will be normal colors.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
 

brendonlee

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This is definitely driver related guys. Take your phone, turn it to auto if you have the issue. Let it mess up the colors. Put your phone to light so it changes its brightness. Go back into darkness so it goes to low again. & your low setting will be normal colors.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express

on mine, allowing it to go to bright in light, then low in dark does NOT fix the problem.

But I agree, its probably software related. If it started happening after the firmware upgrade for some than it has to be software.
 

FiyaFleye

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Nokia just responded to me on twitter, check wpcentral.com for the story as I made them aware of the tweet

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
 

Zhariak

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Called Rogers Corporate support today for some un-related stuff...

Asked about the purple screen, they said this "isn't a normal issue, and they are not aware of it, if you experience it, you should replace your phone as it sounds like a hardware issue, and we haven't heard of any other users experiencing this"...

How are they not aware of it?
 

FiyaFleye

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You're asking people who read off scripts... Not all of them are knowledgeable

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
 

sitizenx

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What if my phone doesn't have a problem?

WPCentral.com is reporting today (May 7th) that Nokia have found the source of the problem (firmware) and will be posting a patch 'soon'.

What I find curious about this is why did I have two phones with the same "firmware" but only one phone was affected? I am not an electrical engineer or computer scientist. Does this pass the sniff test with you guys?

Secondly if my phone is okay now with the current hardware/firmware combination... what will a "fixed" firmware do to my phone? Is the firmware "fix" just removing the low brightness option from ALL phones?!:confused:
 

FiyaFleye

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Same reason not all of us suffered the connection bug, so you're obviously congested. It could be a simple driver error.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
 

sensboston

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What I find curious about this is why did I have two phones with the same "firmware" but only one phone was affected?

Yep, you're absolutely right. It looks like Nokia is trying to minimize their potentially loss (because of defective screens) by firmware fixes. My replacement is on the way from Amazon Wireless (fortunately I have no problem at all with AmzWL - they just said "sorry" and send me a new phone). Hope that one will be fine.

However, I'm very upset of poor Lumia 900 quality, never expected from Nokia :( Too many problems for the "flagship" WP7 handset: "purple tint", "purple spot", short battery life with 4G/LTE, poor/noisy camera quality in low light etc. and so on... :( Never had that kind of problems with my old good "cheap" (he-he - see stupid topic in WP7 "General" forum) Samsung Focus!
 

bcrisp82

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What I find curious about this is why did I have two phones with the same "firmware" but only one phone was affected? I am not an electrical engineer or computer scientist. Does this pass the sniff test with you guys?

Secondly if my phone is okay now with the current hardware/firmware combination... what will a "fixed" firmware do to my phone? Is the firmware "fix" just removing the low brightness option from ALL phones?!:confused:

one scenario could be they may have used a part from two different suppliers that turned out to be mildly different. A firmware update would detect the different part and adjust the color output depending on the detected part (whatever it may be)
 

sitizenx

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Same reason not all of us suffered the connection bug, so you're obviously congested. It could be a simple driver error.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express

I was not around for the connection bug so I cannot speak to that.

Some people were saying that the N8 had a similar issue with the physical screen that required actual replacement. That was my understanding anyway.



Did I get bad information?

hash008 said:
Re: Nokia n8 display issue - purple screen
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26-May-2011 08:47 AM

Hello Everyone,



I had the Purple Screen Issue. And I got the confirmation from reliable sources that the issue is with the hardware (Display itself) and not with the software/ firmware.
 

FiyaFleye

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I mean, its pretty obvious that firmware problems can cause this. Maybe whoever supplied the screens changed something so minor during the production process that causes this. Or maybe a ROM on their servers was corrupted. For a company that just handed out $100 to every owner, regardless of issues or not, well after a fix was available, I doubt they would have any sort of conspiracy theory. They're focused on mindshare & satisfaction, they wouldn't try to screw you.

Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
 

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    A moderator over at the nokiausa.com forum is asking people to PM him details about phones that have the "purple tint" screen issue. His name is Kosh and he can be contacted HERE. He wants a PM with very specific information. He says to PM the following information...

    Kosh said:
    ref; Purple_tint

    Device model:

    Device IMEI number:

    OS version:

    firmware revision :

    Hardware revision :

    a short but detailed desctiption of your experience with this


    You will find this information in Settings > About > more information

    He made this request in a thread about the "purple tint." Just create an account and PM Kosh the requested information in a succinct message. Hopefully they will figure out what is going on.

    fe2cya.jpg


    The image on the left is medium brightness and the image on the right is the same phone on low brightness. The "purple tint" issue goes far beyond a different color keyboard while texting. The entire screen is affected no matter what you are viewing.