Killing apps too aggressively?

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Anyone else notice this?

For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.

What's up with this?
 
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brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?

For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.

What's up with this?
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There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.

Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
 
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brian85 said:
Anyone else notice this?

For example. I'll open up chrome, go to a webpage, exit chrome, and then when I come back to chrome it starts reloading the page again. I've noticed it refreshes or restarts a ton of apps after I come back to them after a short amount of time and it never puts me where I last left off in the app. Even my two year old phones keep apps open longer.

What's up with this?
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You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1

Just some quick tips:

- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use

this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
 
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vbauer86 said:
You have to setup your device properly then you have enough free ram for multitasking. Out of the box the system alone uses like 2gb+ of ram which is to much imo. Stock lollipop uses around ~500mb of ram. After all these years touchwiz is still a ramhog nr.1

Just some quick tips:

- use stock launcher from google or nova or other lightweight launchers
- deactivate facebook and messenger and almost every google app that you dont use

this alone will save you like 500mb ram alone. Everything else you'll find in the ram usage settings from there you can see what uses most ram and if you dont need it just deactivate or deinstall this ****.
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Problem is that I did not have this problem on my Note 3(with lollipop 5,0) so why should I have it on the touchwiz "lite" on the S6? same RAM on both devices.
 
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johanbiff said:
There is a thread about this problem... it sucks and hope sammy fixes this issue soon.

Video of the problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw9PUlFUF0

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/help/s6-vs-m9-vs-iphone-6-t3083188
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This issue is discussed in the other thread, but this one is appropriately named. The issue is driving me nuts, but I didn't find anyone else complaining until I saw this thread.

Bloat or no bloat, it's incomprehensible to me how you can't even have three apps running on a phone with 3 GB of ram. My OPO could easily have six or more apps running at the same time.
 
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I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
 
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brian85 said:
I don't think ram is the issue. I just checked: system is using 1.2gb of ram and apps using 400mb. I have over 1gb of free ram. That's a ton.
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update :)
 
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they will fix this, I think it`s just some bad RAM management.. I love this phone so far so I belive that sammy will fix this on an update :)
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I really like the phone too, but I'm constantly down to about 200-400 MB of RAM although I've removed most of the bloat and I'm not running any weird apps that I haven't used on other phones in the past.

Not too keen on rooting cause of all the warranty issues either...sure hope you're right about them fixing it.
 
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You're not supposed to have free RAM...
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/

There definitely seems to be an issue with apps being closed too quickly but I don't think it has anything to do with the free RAM numbers you're looking at.
 
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I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
 
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Really don`t think it`s the issue with to low RAM, I belive this is a management issue or a bug thats just kills the apps to quickly or even maybe lollipop 5,0,2 issue that samsung missed? I sent samsung a mail about it yesterday so hopefully they will contact me back.
 
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I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.

Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
 
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brian85 said:
I wonder if there is anyway to submit something to samsung so they are aware of this issue. If this wasn't an issue, this phone would be nearly perfect.
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Call Samsung customer support. I did for the flash remaining lit, and they weren't even aware of it. We need to be notifying Samsung of these issues, not our carriers.
 
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745

made a tip to phone arena about this, hopefully Samsung will get some eyes open so they can fix this.

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I'd be very interested to know whether someone who has rooted and changed the minfree settings still experience the issues described here.

Also, did you receive any response from Samsung, Johan?
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sorry no :\ but made a tip to phone arena about it and they announced it today so lets se what happens :)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745

B.R
 
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update is comming according to Samsung UK

just got this answer fron Sammy UK.

let`s see what will happen :)
 

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johanbiff said:
just got this answer fron Sammy UK.

let`s see what will happen :)
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Fingers crossed. Thanks johanbiff

Just a quick link to my S6 edge thread - also about same issue so we can all keep track of this

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/aggressive-ram-management-t3090492/page1

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now also up on Sammobile site :)

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
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Also Gizmodo India

http://www.gizmodo.in/indiamodo/RAM...he-Samsung-Galaxy-S6/articleshow/47083669.cms
 
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